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Towing RV Trailer

What length (including tongue) and weight RV trailer are you towing? What issues (good or bad) have you experienced?
RV Trailer is listed because it is typically a different experience than say a boat or a flat, open trailer...

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Re: Towing RV Trailer

With our JGC Diesel, we tow a Lance 1685 trailer (20'9") with an Andersen WDH. Loaded it is usually around 4700lbs(ish) and a tongue weight in the area of 600/700lbs.

That TW is with 2 propane tanks, 2 Group 24 batteries and an electric tongue jack on the a frame tongue.

No issues at all and the JGC diesel tows really well. I also added a Tuson brake controller to the JGC, which I can heartily recommend

Even SWMBO has no issues towing with the JGC, in fact, she likes driving the set-up. The Andersen WDH makes the Jeep feel like "one" with the TT. No porpoising, no sway, no noise!
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Re: Towing RV Trailer

I tow a Skyline 21BH that measures just over 24 feet from tongue to bumper. The dry weight is 3400 lbs. so with propane, water and stuff, we are around 4500 lbs. I use a basic weight distribution hitch. With the torque of the diesel, it pulls grades better than a buddies 2013 V8 F150 I borrowed last summer before I bought this jeep.


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Re: Towing RV Trailer

This is all great data!
I'm taking a maiden voyage with a new 2015 trailer next week. Although trip will only be 150 miles on mostly flat grade. The keystone Laredo 240mk is 5400 lbs empty and I'm sure it will be about 6,000+ loaded. At some point will get it weighed. Overall length is 28' . Do not know hitch weight but believe I'll be at or close to full capacity. This trailer has a larger frontage area so I'm curious how it will feel with any wind. Using a Reese dual cam anti sway weight distribution hitch. I set it up measuring before hook up and after using the wheel well height to determine any rear end sag from the hitch weight. I have it to being within 1/4" after hitch up.
Previously pulled a 21' coachmen, loaded at 4200 lbs. with the jeep diesel. Used same WDH set up and had no problems whatsoever . Dream pull. Averaged 14-15 mpg on several longer trips which included eastern mountain grades.,

I'll report back with new data on a much heavier and longer trailer. Today a lot of snow melted in the northen VA area!
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I've been towing 4k - 7k lb open and enclosed trailers (with and without v nose) for the past 10 years. I've towed with 3 different v8 gas pickups (5.3 silvy, 6.0 2500, and Tundra) then for the past 4 years (after driving a friends duramax) with an '07 WK CRD and now the WK2 Ecodiesel. There is nothing better than what the WK Ecodiesel can do - it can haul what 99% of full size pickup and SUV owners need to tow, seat 5 comfortably (but a Suburban can seat 7 nicely too) get 40-50% better mpg, but the best things are you can park it in a regular sized garage, or a tight parking spot without a 5 point turn. Real beauty is that this replaced our WRX wagon family car (long trips, primary driver) and our 3rd vehicle which was the full size pickup.
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Re: Towing RV Trailer

We have a 2104 Jeep GC Ecodiesel and tow a 21 foot travel trailer that weighs about 4500 lbs fully loaded. We use a standard WDH and an anti-sway bar. The jeep diesel has towed effortlessly, although the temp gauge jumped up to the middle of the third quadrant (just short of the red zone) on the long, steep uphill grades going over high Rocky Mountain passes. Another participant in this forum says he brought the temperature down by using the paddle shifters to stay in 3rd or 4th on the long passes while pushing the rpms to between about 2700 & 3500 rpms. I watched this forum and other forums closely and did not find anyone who said their jeep actually overheated under these conditions. We get between 15 and 17 mpg while towing.
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Re: Towing RV Trailer

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What's the heaviest and longest enclosed rv trailer you have pulled with the jeep diesel?
How was it with cross winds - if experienced?


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What's the heaviest and longest enclosed rv trailer you have pulled with the jeep diesel?
How was it with cross winds - if experienced?
Never towed an RV trailer but a big boxy square enclosed. I towed a 20' long x 8.5' wide x 6' 6" interior height steel frame trailer (no v nose) ~ 7k lbs (probably more). I towed it without a wd hitch (only had to go 100 miles all hgihway) and had Miata inside it plus a lot of tools / gear / spares. This got me my worst ever MPG of 13 mpg (with my WK CRD) and doing 65 mph (with my old v8 pickup I towed this package and 6-8 mpg was my best going 60 mph - as 65 it could not stay in 4th gear with the wind resistance). Cross winds were ok but the trailer was really heavy which actually helps reduce wind push but a passing truck would really wag the tail a bit (I would highly recommend a wdh for this setup and anti sway bar). I've long since upgraded vehicles (to the WK Ecodiesel) and downgraded in trailer size to a 14 long x 7 wide x 6' inside height v-nose all aluminum trailer. With self level suspension, v nose, and low sail area I've never felt the need to add a wdh or anti sway with it (which makes hook up quick and easy). I get 16-18 mpg towing at 75 mph with this setup. I can get higher mpgs if I would slow down but it tows so well I forget it's back there until I have to hit the brakes (then you are always reminded there's a trailer behind you).
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Just a "heads up" : If you have Quadra Lift, you must set up your WDH with the AIR SUSPENSION OFF!

You can do this in the EVIC.
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Just a "heads up" : If you have Quadra Lift, you must set up your WDH with the AIR SUSPENSION OFF!

You can do this in the EVIC.
I was wondering about this - so just setting it to SPORT mode isn't enough? I was thinking the up and down movement of the suspension will put a hell of a lot of strain on the hitch equipment, both on the vehicle and on the trailer, right?
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Re: Towing RV Trailer

Nope, The combination of WDH and QL systems makes the weighting adjustments. Note that you are required to use a WDH if your trailer is above 3500lbs.

Setting it up is quite easy :

You turn off the QL in the EVIC, then measure the unloaded wheel arch height front and rear. You then put your trailer on the hitch ball and make adjustments to the WDH so that you get the equivalent differential on your wheel arch heights.

i.e. If you had, say, 51 inch front and 52 inch rear unloaded at the wheel arches, you would want to see, say, 50 inch front and 51 inch rear (1" differential as near as dammit) when your trailer weight was on the ball and the WDH was adjusted.

I also checked our trailer frame front and rear height measurements when it was on the straight and level, before and after setting up the WDH. I also checked the trailer position using a carpenters level. You can verify that your trailer is level once the QL is activated. You should also check your trailer tongue weight to ensure that you have 10 to 15 percent of total trailer weight on the tongue/ball.

You can then activate your QL suspension and it will do all the magic for you. This is the correct way to set up the tow system for your caravan. With our TT, we used the Andersen WDH system, which virtually eliminates porpoising and is very quiet and smooth. I like it a lot.
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Re: Towing RV Trailer

LOL on the term "porpoising" - very descriptive. I'll be towing a vehicle trailer (rental from Uhaul) with a combined weight of maybe 5000 lbs. The car-carrier is pretty beefy and has some sort of weight distribution system in place, as told to me by the Uahul guy. I was concerned that I'd hook it up with my vehicle in "exit mode" then it would be all out of whack once it suspension rises up at speed. Prob worth turning that off, too, I think.
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