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Old 05-02-2016, 03:34 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.

While I should be working I've been looking at various pickup options out there. I can get supplier pricing at any of the big three but getting my wife to leave behind her beloved GC will be an uphill battle!

I am now very aware of the total payload issue. If the trailer weighs 590# without distribution (let's assume that makes no difference for now), my wife and I plus two of our dogs total 435#. That means no room for the added weight of the wdh. All luggage would have to be in the rear of the trailer and anyone joining us for a weekend away would have to drive separately. At least they could all bundle into one other vehicle pulling a utility trailer with all the other crap we seem to need to take with us!!

There is a solution in there somewhere!

Maybe now just isn't the right time for us to enter this market.

Thanks to everyone for the replies. I appreciate it!
If it is just you and the wife + 2 dogs, where does the sleep 8-10 requirement come in? There are a LOT of really nice small trailers geared towards the empty nester market that sleep 2-4 and are very lightweight (fun finders, r-pods, micro minnie, etc). You could even go with a rooftop tent if you didn't need all of the facilities. Just throwing it out there in case the number of sleepers isn't a hard requirement.

There are also some manufacturers (like livinLight and airstream) that focus on making lighter trailers regardless of size. Unfortunately, lighter == $$$$$

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Old 05-02-2016, 03:41 PM
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Re: Towing / Travel Trailer Advice Needed

We normally travel with a group of friends which typically includes 2-4 more adults and 2 kids, plus the other dogs those folks bring along (we've had up to 8 dogs between us at some of the shows). My wife's angle is for all of us to stay in the TT instead of shelling out for multiple hotel rooms each trip. In reality the hotels end up being cheaper than an RV loan, insurance and maintenance but she's turning a deaf ear to those discussions!
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Old 05-02-2016, 03:46 PM
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We normally travel with a group of friends which typically includes 2-4 more adults and 2 kids, plus the other dogs those folks bring along (we've had up to 8 dogs between us at some of the shows). My wife's angle is for all of us to stay in the TT instead of shelling out for multiple hotel rooms each trip. In reality the hotels end up being cheaper than an RV loan, insurance and maintenance but she's turning a deaf ear to those discussions!
Got you. That is a lot of bodies for one RV, especially with the dogs (as dogs have an uncanny ability to always be where you need to step). There are a lot of places that rent RV's, might be worth doing once to make sure you like it before you commit. I know a guy that went out and got a 3/4 ton diesel truck, and the big camper as the wife was all excited about camping with the family. They went once and she decided she didn't like it
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Re: Towing / Travel Trailer Advice Needed

Back, when I had my VW Touareg Diesel we towed a Cruiser RV Viewfinder, like this one:2014 Cruiser RV Viewfinder Signature VS-19FK, Travel Trailers RV For Sale By Owner in Denver, Colorado | RVT.com - 187400 with Video from Phoenix, AZ to Fairbanks, AK and back - a 13,000 mile trip. The Diesel had zero problems getting over the mountains.
What makes this trailer special is the V-shaped nose - it literally cuts through the wind and towed very, very easily.
They are no longer manufactured but you can get a used one for a good price.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:09 AM
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I've been looking to buy a similar travel trailer and have concluded I'd be much happier in a class A motorhome.
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Re: Towing / Travel Trailer Advice Needed

I went back and forth for a long time trying to squeeze a travel trailer on my Wrangler so I know where you are coming from. It's a battle of numbers and your brain can convince you to cut corners. Don't do it! Being on the GC now, it pulls our 18' camper like a dream and well within the safety margins.

The WDH was great on the Wrangler, kept it from bouncing all around. I really don't notice a difference on the GC with it on or off. That being said, it can't hurt even though our trailer generally clocks in below 3500.

One thing I would add is that the camper dealers I dealt with when purchasing did not have a clue about anything other than selling the camper. I'd never trust a word they said in regards to weight. I took my setup right over to the truck scales and now I know the real answers.
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Hello everyone,

It's been a long time since I have been active on this board and a quick search didn't answer all of my questions.

My wife and I are looking to get into the travel trailer scene and our Eco-Diesel GC Summit is our only towing capable vehicle. My wife wants a trailer that can sleep 8-10 people for when we go to dog shows with a bunch of friends. This has led us to looking at some pretty long trailers....approx. 30' tongue to bumper and approx 5500lb dry with tandem axle.

Does anyone on here tow a trailer this long? Do you have a weight distribution/anti-sway hitch on the trailer? Is that really necessary when our Summits have the auto leveling air suspension and built in anti-sway technology? It seems to add quite a chunk of change to have this hitch work done to the trailer. Is it overkill?

I have towed our boat (approx 4500lb and 25' tongue to bumper) with no issues whatsoever, but the hitch weight on that setup is much lower. I'm just nervous at the prospect of increasing the weight and trailer length.

Any recommendations on brake controllers? I like the look of the Prodigy P3 or Prodigy RF by Tekonsha. Anyone used these in particular?

Any feedback/advice is welcome.
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Going back to your last question on the original post, I have the P3 brake controller in my 14 WK2 eco-diesel. I wanted a brake controller for when I am pulling back in Wyoming across the switch back mountain passes. Its been a good controller. I rigged up so I could easily take it out when not towing. That was 2 years ago and I haven't taken it out yet. I don't even notice its there still. I know several of my buddies that utilize it in their trucks and like it as well.

Whatever you chose (there are lots of good controllers), I definitely would go with one. With our lighter/smaller vehicles (compared to a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel), the trailer brakes are a huge plus.
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Re: Towing / Travel Trailer Advice Needed

I towed a 26.5 ft travel trailer with a 2014 JGC ecodiesel. The trailer was around 5k lbs dry. I had a weight distributing and sway control hitch on it. Weight wise it towed just fine. It would get a little hot on very long steep climbs. But if I kept if under 60 it was fine. With mild winds under 15 mph it was okay as long as speed was kept under 60. Passing semi trucks was about the same experience. However, anything over 15 mph winds went from not fun to down right terrifying. I towed a 14 ft cargo trailer at 5k lbs and I could hardly tell it was behind me. I also regularly tow an 18 ft boat. I really can't tell when I'm towing the boat. However, I do not recommend towing a travel trailer over 20 ft. The JGC just has too short of a wheelbase. Any kind of wind pushing on a long trailer is going to cause some pretty extreme steer and sway. Regardless of how fancy your hitch is. I know some people have gotten away with it. And it may work in areas without mountains and low wind. But I still wouldn't recommend it.
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I have a 15 Overland Eco. Love this Jeep. I also owned a 15 Jayco JayFlight 28BHS, 31ft from bumper to hitch. Dry was 5500lbs and max weight for the trailer was 7400lbs. I towed this trailer with my Jeep from Utah through WY (tons of wind) to Mt. Rushmore for a family reunion and the Jeep pulled this with no problem. I even averaged 13.2 MPGs.
Unfortunately for me I had to sell the trailer because of my military PCS overseas this summer. If I wasn't moving overseas I'd have more trips planned for my jeep and trailer as it's a fantastic towing platform.




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Old 05-19-2016, 11:39 AM
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I have a 15 Overland Eco. Love this Jeep. I also owned a 15 Jayco JayFlight 28BHS, 31ft from bumper to hitch. Dry was 5500lbs and max weight for the trailer was 7400lbs. I towed this trailer with my Jeep from Utah through WY (tons of wind) to Mt. Rushmore for a family reunion and the Jeep pulled this with no problem. I even averaged 13.2 MPGs.
Good info here volvite. In my limited towing experience though I was leaning a little towards the guys who thought it might be too much trailer. Not disagreeing with you though.

I suggest to the OP to rent such a trailer and try it on a long trip. Give it a shot and see how the setup works.
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Good info here volvite. In my limited towing experience though I was leaning a little towards the guys who thought it might be too much trailer. Not disagreeing with you though.

I suggest to the OP to rent such a trailer and try it on a long trip. Give it a shot and see how the setup works.
I agree that it can be too much trailer for those without any experience towing. I agree with you that the OP should rent one to try it out before making the purchase.
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I agree that it can be too much trailer for those without any experience towing. I agree with you that the OP should rent one to try it out before making the purchase.
Mind sharing what your hitch setup was?
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