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Re: Trailer hitch requitements

The salesman is doing exactly what he's trained to do but, upsell profit items. However even a small enclosed trailer will pull far different than a flatbed with a load, that is not a comparison also pulling a camper is usually a longer proposition than across town, open roads are very different than city driving. The point of a WDH is stability and safety and with a WDH you'll have more control over your ride, period. A trailers aerodynamics absolutely warrant the upgrade to a WDH w/sway, sometimes. He could be talking out of his ass, likely, or overestimating based on need but if being over prepared and comfortable when dragging your stuff is a priority it's a good investment. As for experience, how many have pulled lightweight enclosed trailers on flat as a pancake roads in crosswinds? Apples to apples I've been doing this for a while but in the grands its both better and worse. I pulled a triple axle with two jeeps around the corner and only noticed how many curbs I hit, but a 16 foot 3100# camper for 300 miles of butt puckering at 55 was enough. Just my thoughts

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Re: Trailer hitch requitements

Wow, what a crook.

I usually have between 5k and 6k lbs depending on the car and gear with my steel/wood open trailer. No WD hitch and set the cruise at 79.
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The salesman is doing exactly what he's trained to do but, upsell profit items. However even a small enclosed trailer will pull far different than a flatbed with a load, that is not a comparison also pulling a camper is usually a longer proposition than across town, open roads are very different than city driving. The point of a WDH is stability and safety and with a WDH you'll have more control over your ride, period. A trailers aerodynamics absolutely warrant the upgrade to a WDH w/sway, sometimes. He could be talking out of his ass, likely, or overestimating based on need but if being over prepared and comfortable when dragging your stuff is a priority it's a good investment. As for experience, how many have pulled lightweight enclosed trailers on flat as a pancake roads in crosswinds? Apples to apples I've been doing this for a while but in the grands its both better and worse. I pulled a triple axle with two jeeps around the corner and only noticed how many curbs I hit, but a 16 foot 3100# camper for 300 miles of butt puckering at 55 was enough. Just my thoughts
I pull these trailers often with my Jeep - all with normal dead weight hitch (adjustable drop to keep it level, Anderson Rapid Hitch)

1) A 6x5 standard height enclosed full of goose hunting stuff - you literally can't tell it's back there

2) A 12x6 enclosed with a high roof (6'6" standing height inside) that is FULLY loaded. I feel no sway, but some brakes would be nice in the rain. See pic.

3) A 22" boat that is just under 5,000lbs ready to go to the lake. Pulls great, it's heavier then the tall enclosed but pulls easier on the Interstate due to the lack of wind drag at higher speed.

4) The open golf cart trailer we already talked about

I WOULD use a WDH if I were pulling something with a higher profile like a camper over 3500lbs personally.
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Re: Trailer hitch requitements

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I'm now pulling a 24'+ tongue = 28' overall trailer. 6,000 lbs and 600lbs tongue. It's taller and has 15" tires. Very different than my last 4200 lb 21' trailer and my 22' boat!
This RV catches wind more easily and really can feel it. Currently installing a Hensley hitch system to hopefully cure the problem. Replacing a reese dual cam strait line WDH system.

No problem with the torque pull, it's other factors that present possible issues. No doubt, Rvs are very different pulls than other trailers. It's NOT all about the weight.



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Re: Trailer hitch requitements

I'd guess RVS have a much higher center of gravity making them more prone to sail and cross winds than an enclosed trailer where the bulk of its weight is the frame and whatever contents inside (normally sitting on the floor).
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I'm now pulling a 24'+ tongue = 28' overall trailer. 6,000 lbs and 600lbs tongue. It's taller and has 15" tires. Very different than my last 4200 lb 21' trailer and my 22' boat!
This RV catches wind more easily and really can feel it. Currently installing a Hensley hitch system to hopefully cure the problem. Replacing a reese dual cam strait line WDH system.

No problem with the torque pull, it's other factors that present possible issues. No doubt, Rvs are very different pulls than other trailers. It's NOT all about the weight.



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600 lbs measured with an actual tongue scale (Sherline )


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Re: Trailer hitch requitements

The other nice feature of a WDH other than the anti-sway is the actual weight distribution. A WDH will will essentially make the TV/Trailer act more as one unit, especially in crosswinds or in mountain driving.

Could be overkill for a light trailer, but I would think it would provide better stability nonetheless.
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Re: Trailer hitch requitements

I don't run a WDH on my 7x14 even when I've had loaded to near the trailer's 7k max (had it loaded and drove from KS to NJ last summer when moving). I got 14.8 mpg average on that trip but I was doing 70-75 mph. Should have gone over the scales and taken a picture of the rig as when I loaded it on level ground and checked after the first 10 miles it was perfectly level - no sway and no steering problems (endemic of too much tongue weight).

I normally only have it loaded to 5k total including trailer (racecar and all the gear inside).
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I don't run a WDH on my 7x14 even when I've had loaded to near the trailer's 7k max (had it loaded and drove from KS to NJ last summer when moving). I got 14.8 mpg average on that trip but I was doing 70-75 mph. Should have gone over the scales and taken a picture of the rig as when I loaded it on level ground and checked after the first 10 miles it was perfectly level - no sway and no steering problems (endemic of too much tongue weight).

I normally only have it loaded to 5k total including trailer (racecar and all the gear inside).
Great mpg!
That's what I was getting pulling a previous 21' , 4200lb RV trailer. Max of 65mph.

Your tongue weight must have been good and load is low. The capacity on Jeep is 720 lbs tongue (for a 4x4). With large RV's its real easy to get close to and exceed that tongue number. When it does- front tires are up, rear is sagging and subsequently control of vehicle deteriorates quickly. This is when the WDH assists.
A 7x14 car trailer is often lower in height. For example my RV, 15" tires and roof a/c unit is almost 11' high. It's a nice sail in the cross wind!

The wheelbase, payload & tongue weight capacities of the Jeep has limitations for towing larger, boxy RV's.

This weekend test- A trip with new Hensley Hitch installed. It weighs almost 180lbs!
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Great mpg!
That's what I was getting pulling a previous 21' , 4200lb RV trailer. Max of 65mph.

Your tongue weight must have been good and load is low. The capacity on Jeep is 720 lbs tongue (for a 4x4). With large RV's its real easy to get close to and exceed that tongue number. When it does- front tires are up, rear is sagging and subsequently control of vehicle deteriorates quickly. This is when the WDH assists.
A 7x14 car trailer is often lower in height. For example my RV, 15" tires and roof a/c unit is almost 11' high. It's a nice sail in the cross wind!

The wheelbase, payload & tongue weight capacities of the Jeep has limitations for towing larger, boxy RV's.

This weekend test- A trip with new Hensley Hitch installed. It weighs almost 180lbs!
I upgraded to a full aluminum v nose trailer so tongue weight is actually easy to monitor (though I do keep my tool cart [heavy] up front in it). It is also only 6' inside and < 8' tall from road to top exterior. Makes a huge difference in towing.
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We use the Andersen Anti-Sway WDH..........

Andersen 'No-Sway' Weight Distribution Hitch

Light and easy to use...works great!
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