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Old 05-03-2014, 05:44 PM
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Trailering and Driving Mileage

Been a while since I have started a thread but I know a lot of people asked me about what I think about the new Diesel towing so I thought I would do a short sum up....

Here is the setup



It is 7180 lbs. at the scales loaded (trailer)

The Air Suspension works beautifully with the trailer and Equalizer load bars, even in some fairly gusty winds.

My mileage (ONLY with the trailer on) in a fairly hilly region similar to the foot hills in the Northern part of North Carolina. I was getting over 15 most of the trip but I guess I got anxious and was pushing her a little harder close to home



The remote office (similar to where I am working from right now, hence the cell booster Antenna, just no snow any more !!)



Mileage Mixed driving (no trailer for comparison), again fairly hilly and some decent headwinds this day with some in town and highway driving.... I usually and driving a little faster than the speed limit and I pass as needed



Overall, very friendly drive, I have driven this trailer with a 2010 Yukon 5.3, 2009 Mercedes ML320 Bluetec and a 2011 Durango Hemi. Of all of those the Jeep Diesel is by far the smoothest, most relaxing drive of them all. I easily get 35% better fuel mileage on or trailer off. I have certainly gotten much better mileage but this was a decent example vs trailering.

The 2014 Jeep Hemi did a similar trip last year and score 10, if I recall.

Biggest plus is the nice low smooth RPMs on the highway and no ScCCREEAMing high RPMs like the Yukon used to do.... Very Stressful!

I am more than happy to answer trailering questions etc, I tow lots with different vehicles... looking at a RAM 2500 and a 5th wheel in the next couple of years. I used to tow a 32 Foot Montana with a Duramax back in the day.
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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

Whoops, forgot the trailer brake placement... I take no credit for this, Aussie Patent I believe

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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

Nice setup! I was wondering how the jeep would tow something near max, now I know!
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:57 AM
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Nice setup! I was wondering how the jeep would tow something near max, now I know!
Actually, I am glad you mentioned that, I pick vehicles that run Drive Trains that tow more in other vehicles. For Example the Durango and the Mercedes both share with vehicles that have 9-10k tow ratings.

It tows pretty effortlessly. The Mercedes and the Durango both ran great with a year of towing a ton. The Yukon sounded like the interior was going to fall apart after 6 months. It seems that the unibody construction shared between the Mercedes and Dodge/Jeep these days stands up to this medium/light duty towing better.
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Actually, I am glad you mentioned that, I pick vehicles that run Drive Trains that tow more in other vehicles. For Example the Durango and the Mercedes both share with vehicles that have 9-10k tow ratings.

It tows pretty effortlessly. The Mercedes and the Durango both ran great with a year of towing a ton. The Yukon sounded like the interior was going to fall apart after 6 months. It seems that the unibody construction shared between the Mercedes and Dodge/Jeep these days stands up to this medium/light duty towing better.
Really interesting post - thanks for sharing!
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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

Damn, I bet you get some funny looks towing that without a truck. I remember the first time my co-driver (autoX) said we could tow the car on the trailer with his 07 CRD, I thought are you sure? That looks a bit dinky to tow with compared to the broken F250 we were using.

It seemed so effortless I had to have one for myself. The Jeep chassis sure does tow like a Champ in the old Gen, can only imagine its gotten better. Next bonus season we'll be putting a large portion down on a 2015.
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I get a lot of questions.... Like:

Acura MDX driver: wow that trailer must be light, how much does it weight

Me: a little over 7000 pounds

Acura MDX driver: oh never mind.

I also agree it just feels better to tow with as well.

Lots of people with half ton pick ups say my jeep is to "light" to tow with, then I point out my Jeep "weighs" more than then their truck.... Always a fun discussion.
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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

Willx:

I also tow a trailer about half the GVWR as yours. Slightly off topic. Now that it's camping season, are you at all concerned with the issue flagged in other threads about the DEF injector wiring hanging low, making it a good candidate for getting torn off by underbrush, etc.? Starting to become a concern for me because I do tow into some fairly primitive campgrounds.

I'd appreciate your thoughts.

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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

I was up under there last week as I have had a different issue with the injector (they replaced it) but I have not decided what if anything to do about it. It is not a great placement but I am going to see how it affects me out in the wild.
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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

I guess that is my concern. That injector sensor tears out in the wild and we do have a problem. Miles from the nearest town, a trailer, and a mileage limit that keeps you from starting the vehicle once you've reached it. I hope Jeep is working on a fix. I've read anecdotes that even hitting a puddle can tear the injector sensor loose.


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I guess that is my concern. That injector sensor tears out in the wild and we do have a problem. Miles from the nearest town, a trailer, and a mileage limit that keeps you from starting the vehicle once you've reached it. I hope Jeep is working on a fix. I've read anecdotes that even hitting a puddle can tear the injector sensor loose.


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Well, the latter concern is not happening... I do know at assembly there were a few that got pinched. If someone drove through some water, that may have simple flagged the problem in the computer.

That is an FYI, if you see minor damage to that wiring on your first time looking, take it in, there is a case on those as there was a few damaged that way. I am no discrediting anyone who did damage theirs but there is certainly documentation of some that got pinched before they left JNAP.
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Re: Trailering and Driving Mileage

Thanks for that. I haven't seen any damage. My worry is that if I drive over a root or catch a rut on the way to the campground that injector wiring loop can get hooked pretty easily, just by looking at it. If that hasn't been your experience, then I am less concerned. Thanks, again, for your thoughts. I am heading into some fairly dense national forests shortly and reading about the DEF injector wiring got me a little spooked.


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