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The ZF transmissions are very, very fussy when it comes to oil. Personally, I'd stick to Lifeguard 8, but then personally I would wait till 100km, specially if you are not towing. You really are just wasting your money. The ZF's are a generation better than the old transmissions.


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yep this is correct ,stay with mopar fluid

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Old 01-23-2016, 08:00 PM
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Re: Transmission Fluid Replacement at 50k.

Lifeguard 8 is the only approved fluid for this transmission. If MOPAR sells it then it is just repackaged LG8.
In general LG fluids are super slippery and stink both new and old. Easy to tell any LG fluid with these characteristics....
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Re: Transmission Fluid Replacement at 50k.

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Thanks everyone for your input, replacing the fluid and filter at 50k is not for everyone and I am basing this on my driving style and towing, heat is the biggest killer of the trans oil and Jeep got it right with this setup, so chances are everything will be fine, but if its not then all the better.

When I drop the fluid and get a Blackstone test from those results I will then determine if I push it out further or just drop oil only at 100K or oil and filter.

The main reason for posting this hot potato was to get people talking and find out about alternatives to Lifeguard 8 as there is not alot of info out there.

I had a Cross 8 before this and when AUS stopped using the 4L65 trans the US still used them but then changed from Dex 3 to Dex 6 but in AUS the spec was still for Dex 3. I swapped from Dex 3 to Dex 6 and the difference was night and day, people thought I was nuts.

So the more people who comment on this Lifeguard 8 topic of alternative oils a better choice can be made on which one to use.

Keep it coming.

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RamEcoDiesel used Lucas ATF conditioner and Amsoil high efficiency ATF in his. It's rated for the shell standard for these transmissions.


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RamEcoDiesel used Lucas ATF conditioner and Amsoil high efficiency ATF in his. It's rated for the shell standard for these transmissions.
Isn't that the guy known for conducting "courageous" experiments with his vehicle and who, as a consequence, has also had to perform a complete engine replacement that wasn't covered by warranty?
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That would be correct.
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Re: Transmission Fluid Replacement at 50k.

I would change it I have a 98 grand cherokee with 225k on my son uses now. Owned since new towed with it I always changed Trans fluid a little early. .cheap insurance
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Re: Transmission Fluid Replacement at 50k.

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That would be correct.


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Isn't that the guy known for conducting "courageous" experiments with his vehicle and who, as a consequence, has also had to perform a complete engine replacement that wasn't covered by warranty?

Wasn't the point of this post asking about alternatives? Instead of bashing him, maybe you should be thanking him. Engine replacement aside, has he had a transmission failure? Because of his "courageous" experiments, you now have data that you would not have had otherwise. I've been running the same fluid in my tranny for about 2k miles now. Certainly not enough miles to be definitive, but certainly not catastrophic. Bonus, it shifts like it's new again.


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Instead of bashing him, maybe you should be thanking him.
Haha, projecting much? At least you acknowledge that it was a statement of fact. Are you really that upset that an objectively truthful point was mentioned?

This kind of background context is important to disclose for others who may be considering trying the same course of action. Let others make fully informed decisions.

Good luck with your transmission experiment.
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Re: Transmission Fluid Replacement at 50k.

There's chatter about this over on dodgedurango currently..

It appears ZF has (or maybe not) some special mojo in their fluid for these transmissions. None of us here has the technical knowledge to say whether some Amsoil with some additive pack (or irradiated goose poop or whatever) is appropriate for this transmission. Folks who sell various fluids have a large financial incentive to get you to buy <whatever they sell>.

Me, I'd say just put the ZF stuff in the transmission and go drive. Life's too short. But that's just me.
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There's chatter about this over on dodgedurango currently..

It appears ZF has (or maybe not) some special mojo in their fluid for these transmissions. None of us here has the technical knowledge to say whether some Amsoil with some additive pack (or irradiated goose poop or whatever) is appropriate for this transmission. Folks who sell various fluids have a large financial incentive to get you to buy <whatever they sell>.

Me, I'd say just put the ZF stuff in the transmission and go drive. Life's too short. But that's just me.

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Re: Transmission Fluid Replacement at 50k.

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Haha, projecting much? At least you acknowledge that it was a statement of fact. Are you really that upset that an objectively truthful point was mentioned?

This kind of background context is important to disclose for others who may be considering trying the same course of action. Let others make fully informed decisions.

Good luck with your transmission experiment.

Do you truly have the facts about some other guy's engine? Therefore nothing was objectively stated except he had an engine failure on a vehicle he uses commercially. I never acknowledged anything other than the engine failure which is another matter not relevant to this matter. Are you really that upset someone has the cojones to try other fluids that meet manufacturer specs... which is what you guys were asking about?


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Are you really that upset someone has the cojones to try other fluids that meet manufacturer specs...
I'm certainly not upset; in fact, I'm mostly amused by how irked you were that I made this disclosure of material fact for you that somehow you forgot to mention.

It is absolutely relevant to note that this advocate of using unapproved fluids has also conducted many other "courageous" experiments and has also experienced a catastrophic engine failure that wasn't covered by warranty. It's hard to take the position that mentioning this is not salient, especially when you are making an appeal to his expertise when you cite his use of unapproved fluids.

Hm, I suppose saying "Hey, guys, try this unapproved alternative transmission fluid. This other guy who has done many other unapproved experiments on his EcoDiesel and who has also experienced his engine grenading says it is a great choice regardless of what the transmission manufacturer says!" might not convince as many other people to join you in mimicking him, though.
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