Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 - > 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel 3.0

Join Jeep Garage Today
View Poll Results: Interested in Group Buy of DEF protection Plate
Yes for DEF protection Plate 61 100.00%
No 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #37  
Old 04-25-2014, 12:54 PM
Rumline's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 260
Thanks: 67
Thanked 35 Times in 23 Posts
Rep Power: 1464
Rumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond reputeRumline has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcursionDiesel View Post
I am still concerned with baking the wiring and connectors if the plate traps heat.
That's why I think that even though the expanded steel (mesh) could allow things to penetrate it, there is higher risk in trapping too much heat in that area with a solid plate.

Sorry I can't be much help in identifying a solution; my CRD isn't going to be here for another 4 weeks or so. But I am highly motivated to find a solution because I need to have confidence in my vehicle offroad.
__________________

__________________

2014 Overland Ecodiesel 4x4 - Adv. Tech - ORA2

Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 04-25-2014, 01:51 PM
ExcursionDiesel's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: W. TN.
Posts: 1,837
Thanks: 16
Thanked 279 Times in 192 Posts
Rep Power: 3295
ExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

I suppose that "folding" a heavy mesh wire into several layers would work well. It would have greater strength and smaller holes created by the overlapping layers not lining up....kind of like an air filter. Heat would go right through it. Bending the layered mesh wire "plate" then fastening it all together with fender washers and short bolts would make it very strong. I would still make a small plate where the wires cross under the frame as this is a pinch point that should bear the entire crushing weight of the jeep.
__________________

__________________
----------------------
The founder of JeepGarage.org, Scottina06, has a son Max who is in need of corrective surgery from an infection at birth that left one leg 4 inches short. We need to support our Jeep brothers. His family has started a fund on giveforward.com. If you have ever been helped by someone else, now is a good time to pay it forward. Here is a link to that page. God bless you! http://gfwd.at/1rz33PW
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 04-25-2014, 03:54 PM
ExcursionDiesel's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: W. TN.
Posts: 1,837
Thanks: 16
Thanked 279 Times in 192 Posts
Rep Power: 3295
ExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Here's a composite picture I stitched together from multiple pics. Unfortunately I missed the frame rail.

JGC_2014_DPF_CAT_System.jpg
__________________
----------------------
The founder of JeepGarage.org, Scottina06, has a son Max who is in need of corrective surgery from an infection at birth that left one leg 4 inches short. We need to support our Jeep brothers. His family has started a fund on giveforward.com. If you have ever been helped by someone else, now is a good time to pay it forward. Here is a link to that page. God bless you! http://gfwd.at/1rz33PW
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ExcursionDiesel For This Useful Post:
  #40  
Old 04-25-2014, 05:08 PM
ExcursionDiesel's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: W. TN.
Posts: 1,837
Thanks: 16
Thanked 279 Times in 192 Posts
Rep Power: 3295
ExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Another idea:

Attach a small plate to the flange bolts just to the right of the DEF injector that extends over the sensor. Let it float with the exhaust. Use a stainless exhaust clamp to hold the other end.

After crawling under mine and taking a second look, the mounting options to span the entire area are not good.
__________________
----------------------
The founder of JeepGarage.org, Scottina06, has a son Max who is in need of corrective surgery from an infection at birth that left one leg 4 inches short. We need to support our Jeep brothers. His family has started a fund on giveforward.com. If you have ever been helped by someone else, now is a good time to pay it forward. Here is a link to that page. God bless you! http://gfwd.at/1rz33PW
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 05-01-2014, 04:22 PM
Member
My Jeep: 2008 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 79
Thanks: 40
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1251
stratoblaster is on a distinguished road
Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Any more news on this? As a potential 2015 buyer, it is really bugging me. Love to take the lower front fascia off my '08 WK for a little wheelin' sometimes, and not have to worry too much about stuff breaking or getting stranded. I wonder if the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel has the same issue?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 05-02-2014, 09:36 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 304
Thanks: 13
Thanked 39 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 1406
amr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

I just took few pictures and kind of felt how solid the part feels / sure is exposed and fragile feeling ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1399041356.855103.jpgImageUploadedByJeepGarage1399041368.687340.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using JeepGarage
__________________
---
2014 Granite / Frost Beige - Limited - Lux II - Off Road II - Block Heater - CRD - 275/65/18 Michelin LTX A/T2 Tires
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to amr40509 For This Useful Post:
  #43  
Old 05-02-2014, 10:26 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 244
plainmek is on a distinguished road
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

I had the same problem new Summit 4500 miles drove thru large puddle broke off DEF injector dealer will not warranty due to part damaged talked to Jeep Cust servise no help there. Went to National Highway Traffic Safety Admin (NHTSA) and filled a complaint. I suggest all others who had this problem do the same the more complaints they recive the quicker they might issue a recall
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 05-02-2014, 10:32 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 304
Thanks: 13
Thanked 39 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 1406
amr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond reputeamr40509 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

As a note - mine is not broken, the dealer just owed me a free oil change so it was up on the lift.

For those that have broken them, is this something that is a pretty easy swap? Meaning a good spare part to just keep in the truck, or is it a more complex issue then a road side swap?
__________________
---
2014 Granite / Frost Beige - Limited - Lux II - Off Road II - Block Heater - CRD - 275/65/18 Michelin LTX A/T2 Tires
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 05-02-2014, 10:59 AM
GunninIt's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: California
Posts: 131
Thanks: 7
Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 892
GunninIt has a reputation beyond reputeGunninIt has a reputation beyond reputeGunninIt has a reputation beyond reputeGunninIt has a reputation beyond reputeGunninIt has a reputation beyond reputeGunninIt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Quote:
Originally Posted by plainmek View Post
I had the same problem new Summit 4500 miles drove thru large puddle broke off DEF injector dealer will not warranty due to part damaged talked to Jeep Cust servise no help there. Went to National Highway Traffic Safety Admin (NHTSA) and filled a complaint. I suggest all others who had this problem do the same the more complaints they recive the quicker they might issue a recall
Drove through a large puddle - as in you were cruising down the road and a flash flood happened and you drove through a 5mph? Or, you were off-road and drove through a river that was 3 feet deep and drug the bottom across a rock that tore it?

I believe you, but I can't believe Jeep denying a warranty claim on the repair. That's asinine. You have every right to file as many claims with as many people as possible.
__________________
2014 GC Limited CRD Bright White/Black LuxII ORAII RA4



The 3.6 in my JKUR is like 6 drunk hamsters banging on bongos. -dugedug
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 05-02-2014, 11:53 AM
Member
My Jeep: 2008 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: southeast Michigan
Posts: 79
Thanks: 40
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 1251
stratoblaster is on a distinguished road
Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Thanks for those two pics amr40509. Wow. The setup looks like such a slapped-on afterthought. The one line passing so low looks begging to be caught on something. Seems like all of that should be coming down from above the pipe, and facing upward, even if it means having to disassemble and lower an exhaust component in order to access and service the injector. Definitely waiting to see how Chrysler handles this.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 05-02-2014, 01:27 PM
ExcursionDiesel's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: W. TN.
Posts: 1,837
Thanks: 16
Thanked 279 Times in 192 Posts
Rep Power: 3295
ExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond reputeExcursionDiesel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

There's a thought. Someone needs to make a "y pipe" just like stock but rotates the injector 45 degrees. Wires can be rerouted but that injector is in a spot that is exposed and can't be moved otherwise.
__________________
----------------------
The founder of JeepGarage.org, Scottina06, has a son Max who is in need of corrective surgery from an infection at birth that left one leg 4 inches short. We need to support our Jeep brothers. His family has started a fund on giveforward.com. If you have ever been helped by someone else, now is a good time to pay it forward. Here is a link to that page. God bless you! http://gfwd.at/1rz33PW
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 05-02-2014, 02:46 PM
fun2drive's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida Panhandle/ Ohio
Posts: 522
Thanks: 14
Thanked 33 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 1275
fun2drive has a reputation beyond reputefun2drive has a reputation beyond reputefun2drive has a reputation beyond reputefun2drive has a reputation beyond reputefun2drive has a reputation beyond reputefun2drive has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Vulnerable DEF injector wiring!

Until someone comes up with a better solution I am going to cobble something up to protect that injector. I totally agree that the location was piss poor engineering and an after though. I would not consider repositioning the injector since that would be a warranty issue if something went south.
I bet someone will come up with a repositioning kit of some kind maybe even Jeep.

Thanks for the pictures I never realized just how exposed that harness and injector are...
__________________

__________________
Overland Deep Cherry Red/ LT Biege Inter/ Diesel/ ATG
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fuel Injector cleaner GrnBeltWarrior Grand Cherokee - WJ 7 04-09-2012 09:58 AM
Injector Help CCullen518 Grand Cherokee - WK 2 04-10-2011 08:33 AM
Injector plug removal Gojeep Grand Cherokee - WK 5 02-25-2011 04:55 AM
#4 fuel injector RoyS Engine Performance/Intake/Exhaust 2 06-19-2010 08:27 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community

JeepGarage.org is in no way associated with or endorsed by Chrysler Group LLC.