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Old 11-02-2013, 10:34 PM
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Get the dealer to swap them out.
FWIW, Often you can get tire dealers to do a swap as well. I always have mine swapped with Bridgestone Dueler Revo AT 2's at Discount Tire on my way home.

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:04 AM
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Ripping off the current ones for the Winter season.

I already ordered new 18inch rims with a set of GoodYear Ultra Ice WRT's tossed on em. I had them studded as well. I went the Goodyear Ultra route as they do decent in wet traction (which we need here) but also received decent reviews for snow and ice (especially studded).

...irritatingly, the tires beat the rig... and the rims AND tires were both on backorder then I ordered em.

I'll be replacing the current tires for a set of Michelin LTX A/T 2. Not as nice as the Tour HP's or M/S2's, but a bit more off-road worthy as well.

My last Jeep had those Fortera HL's. I HATED those $#@!ing things. Didn't wear well, averaging about 40k out of em (and that's with 5k rotation) and they are NOT good with standing water. I've never hydroplaned so many times in my life as I did with those damn things.
Don't be fooled! While a lot of the Michelin LTX A/T2's are LT tyres, the 265/60R18 size is not. Why? Who knows!
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:13 AM
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Re: tire swap (to LT and 265/65-18)

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A couple comments and a few questions:
I have LT tires on my ZJ for the added sidewall strength. However, the ride is rather rough. It should not be as bad on a unicorn which is 30% heavier.

When switching from 265/60-18 to 265/65-18 the circumference is larger, so the engine speed is reduced 3.6%.
Is there an issue running lower RPMs (transmission, etc.)?
Is there a warranty issue?
Can the odometer/speedometer be adjusted?
In my country at least, running anything but the OEM type and size tyres is technically illegal. So it could conceivably affect warranty and insurance if anybody bothered to check. I'm running LT's but that my choice. I'm aware they might not have the road performance of a passenger tyre so I drive accordingly. I'll take my chances with the law.
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Re: tire swap (to LT and 265/65-18)

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In my country at least, running anything but the OEM type and size tyres is technically illegal.
I've never heard of such a thing in the US. Those Wrangler guys would have a heck of a problem on their hands if so.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:47 AM
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Re: tire swap (to LT and 265/65-18)

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In my country at least, running anything but the OEM type and size tyres is technically illegal. So it could conceivably affect warranty and insurance if anybody bothered to check. I'm running LT's but that my choice. I'm aware they might not have the road performance of a passenger tyre so I drive accordingly. I'll take my chances with the law.
In North America, they allow for off-sizing and have recommendations on what you can and cannot do. Also most of the N/A manufacturers have the capability of changing the tire size in the computer via the programming system. This corrects the speedometer, but of course there is only a certain range available.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:24 AM
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I don't think (but not positive) that it shows the level. There is a warning light on the dash when you get down to 500 miles, along with an EVIC warning. The first warning comes at 500 miles, then as the level gets lower and lower the warnings come more frequently.
I found the level. From the EVIC under vehicle information. It's the last "dot" to the right. This is also where you can see oil pressure and transmission temperature. My DEF tank was not filled full at the dealer. I'll be calling then tomorrow
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

Anyone have any experience with Opti-Coat Ceramic Clear Coat for paint protection? The Detail Shop I'm considering recommends it along with Xpel paint protection film. Since the weather turned I now have 6 mile of mud, gravel, and snow to traverse before getting the SFU to the home corral. I'm thinking of heading straight to the Detail Shop after I pick it up. Once I get it home, I won't be able to tell what color it is until Spring.
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:36 PM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

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I think my dealer said it took them a little 2 hours to prep mine Friday.
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My DEF tank was not filled full at the dealer. I'll be calling then tomorrow
Perhaps the dealership should have taken more than 2 hours.


I am giving my dealer a full day for PDI, then I plan to take my time to check out every detail with the help of the checklist provided by several posters. We have leverage at time of delivery, returning is an inconvenience I would just as soon avoid.
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I found the level. From the EVIC under vehicle information. It's the last "dot" to the right. This is also where you can see oil pressure and transmission temperature. My DEF tank was not filled full at the dealer. I'll be calling then tomorrow
Has anyone who has already taken delivery had a full tank? If not this is a common problem. Maybe Jeep needs to remind all dealerships receiving JGC EcoDiesels they are required to top off the DEF tank IAW the PDI.
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Has anyone who has already taken delivery had a full tank? If not this is a common problem. Maybe Jeep needs to remind all dealerships receiving JGC EcoDiesels they are required to top off the DEF tank IAW the PDI.
I hate to say this but it does say it in the PDI instructions and this has always been the way with Diesels. If they are not doing it there is nothing more Chrysler can really do. It explicitly requires them to check ALL fluid levels as well as top up the DEF tank!

My only suggestion is for all you guys is to check this on delivery and have them correct it immediately. The new ownership experience is going to be pretty crappy if your truck starts coming up with warnings a few thousand miles in.

Totally sloppy on the dealer part
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

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Anyone have any experience with Opti-Coat Ceramic Clear Coat for paint protection? The Detail Shop I'm considering recommends it along with Xpel paint protection film. Since the weather turned I now have 6 mile of mud, gravel, and snow to traverse before getting the SFU to the home corral. I'm thinking of heading straight to the Detail Shop after I pick it up. Once I get it home, I won't be able to tell what color it is until Spring.
Haven't heard of it, I use JetSeal 109 for my cars then wax over that. Nice thing is you can do it yourself and save some money.
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Re: tire swap (to LT and 265/65-18)

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The larger diameter really only has a speedomenter error impact, that and the loss of mileage and power.
While admittedly unlikely due to the small percentages we're talking about, do you know for sure it doesn't impact things like the forward collision? Presumably it'll be using incorrect data for its calculations ...

I did also see one post where someone was denied warranty due to incorrectly-sized tires. Though I don't recall what size, so it could've been something a bit more nuts.

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The 265/65/18 is more forgiving fitment and still looks good at 31.5". Also speedo error on my 2013 with this height is almost 0.
Unfortunately none of the LT tires seem to come in that size. As I said earlier, the closest I could find was the 32" 275/65/18's. If I don't choose an LT I'd probably just go with the stock size. I'm not actually trying to get a larger tire, I'm more just interested in possibly putting an LT tire on there.

Although I found this interesting tidbit when looking at the new Wranglers:

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The company added it chose to not pursue earning the “snowflake” winter tire designation for all versions of the tire due to consumer needs.

“The P-metrics tend to be on vehicles with a little more on-road performance. They need a little more wet performance, so we chose to focus on the wet performance on the standard load tires,” Nowacki said. “The pro-grade sizes, LT-metric sizes, they need a little more chip and chunk resistance. They have a lot more diverse load and inflation conditions, so we wanted to address those needs, as well. We found it a good break point between the P-metric and LT-metric. The LT-metrics have deeper tread to help with tread life and earn the snow flake certification, as well.”
So it sounds like the LTs have worse wet performance. Since snow and offroad aren't as common for me, maybe getting the better wet performance is the right choice?

Still not sure what I want to do....
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