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Old 12-08-2013, 02:24 PM
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I'm using Shell V-Power diesel, it's premium diesel. Will that have additives to prevent gelling? Also, don't see how block heater would deal with gelling issue, doesn't block heater just keep radiator fluid warm?
I'm in Canada as well and have been driving diesels for 20 years. Before Common Rail injection became the norm I would always fuel up with a couple of liters of premium gasoline on an empty tank and then fill to the top with diesel. Do not do this now! Nowadays you can pretty much be sure that wherever you buy diesel it will be formulated to that region's weather. It's just not an issue anymore. Now if you filled up in Florida and had your vehicle towed to MN you might want to put in some diesel conditioner, otherwise don't give it a second thought.., btw even summer blends of diesel won't gel until -10 C or colder.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:30 PM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

thanks guys for the feedback on the Trail Rated badge and DEF gauge...

btw, does anyone know the capacity of the DEF tank? I didn't see any official spec on it, just curious.

I'm at about 1600 miles and my DEF shows 100% but is down almost one full bar now on the gauge, I wonder what the increments of the percentage gauge are, maybe it will go right to 80% soon??...not that it really matters though. It will be interesting to see how many miles people get from the DEF tank as the months go by now with all our EcoDiesels racking up the miles

Installed 4 mud flaps today just in time for the weather! My front doors were getting pretty dirty; the flaps should help with the Nitto Terra Grapplers I'll be putting on soon
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:14 AM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

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I'm using Shell V-Power diesel, it's premium diesel. Will that have additives to prevent gelling? Also, don't see how block heater would deal with gelling issue, doesn't block heater just keep radiator fluid warm?
Yes, it only circulates the coolant. The Shell stations near me do not have diesel. I fueled up with Shell all the way home from Texas, and averaged 28-30 mpg. Using Fleet Farm I am barely over 20 mpg, and since I filled at Holiday, I am sitting at 17.5 mpg in the first third of a tank. Granted, I have been using the remote start this week with the cold temps, but only for about 10 minutes a day. No stations around that I am aware of that have higher cetane levels. Going to have to do a little more research. Any one else with better mpg, please chime in and give your opinions.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:18 AM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

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thanks guys for the feedback on the Trail Rated badge and DEF gauge...

btw, does anyone know the capacity of the DEF tank? I didn't see any official spec on it, just curious.

I'm at about 1600 miles and my DEF shows 100% but is down almost one full bar now on the gauge, I wonder what the increments of the percentage gauge are, maybe it will go right to 80% soon??...not that it really matters though. It will be interesting to see how many miles people get from the DEF tank as the months go by now with all our EcoDiesels racking up the miles
I think I read in a review somewhere that the DEF tank holds 8.5 gallons. I'm still showing 100 percent at about 1200 miles but oil life is already down to 77 percent. Looks like I'll require an oil change well before needing to top off the DEF.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:53 AM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

With 10 years of experience driving my Super Duty my winter mileage was always dropped about 30%. This is in Florida so it doesn't suprise me you have a lower mpg reading. I think it is a combination of both winter fuel and more resistance driving shorter trips.
I never found much of a difference in fuel mpg using different fuels in 179K miles using my SD. Could be my SD isn't that sensitive to it and the new common rail systems with piezoelectric fuel metering injectors with better sensors are.

All I know is that I am excited to get this SFU after following the progress for close to a year...
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:25 AM
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Usually Holiday or SuperAmerica.
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I was thinking I should have a quart or two of oil handy if I ever need to add some. First place I went was the local Chrysler/Jeep dealer (not the one I bought the SFU from), the guy behind the counter tried to sell me a quart that clearly stated "for gasoline engines" on the front label. When I pushed on the issue he checked again and said they only had the oil for diesels in bulk, not quarts. So off to O'Reilly Auto Parts. Only oil "for gasoline engines". They called a couple different places like Mobil directly, and they had no cross reference for Chrysler MS-11106 called out in the manual. Any recommendations on where to get the correct oil? Makes me wonder about even taking it to the dealer for an oil changes. And forget Jiffy Lube or Rapid Oil, they'll probably try to top off the engine coolant with the wrong stuff as well.

Also, I don't even have 1000 miles yet and the oil life is down to 74%. If it continues at this rate, do I really need to change oil at 4,000 miles or just wait till 10,000?

The joys of being on the bleeding edge.....
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

Vtail, try this link. Click on the down arrow that says "Find a product matching a spec"

Oil Spec Finder and Comparison Tool - oilspecifications.org

We had the same issues finding these boutique oils for our MB Bluetec. It's out there but not everywhere.
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I was thinking I should have a quart or two of oil handy if I ever need to add some. First place I went was the local Chrysler/Jeep dealer (not the one I bought the SFU from), the guy behind the counter tried to sell me a quart that clearly stated "for gasoline engines" on the front label. When I pushed on the issue he checked again and said they only had the oil for diesels in bulk, not quarts. So off to O'Reilly Auto Parts. Only oil "for gasoline engines". They called a couple different places like Mobil directly, and they had no cross reference for Chrysler MS-11106 called out in the manual. Any recommendations on where to get the correct oil? Makes me wonder about even taking it to the dealer for an oil changes. And forget Jiffy Lube or Rapid Oil, they'll probably try to top off the engine coolant with the wrong stuff as well.

Also, I don't even have 1000 miles yet and the oil life is down to 74%. If it continues at this rate, do I really need to change oil at 4,000 miles or just wait till 10,000?

The joys of being on the bleeding edge.....
Same problem down here in sunny Florida. No luck at Advance Auto Parts or Pep Boys. I web searched Pennzoil Ultra Euro L 5W30 Synthetic and it can be had from a few places. Best price I found was $54.99 for six quarts.

I am also experiencing the same rapid decline of oil life, down to 77% at 1150 miles.
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They called a couple different places like Mobil directly, and they had no cross reference for Chrysler MS-11106 called out in the manual.
Seems like those guys are not that knowledgeable in their own line of business. Using BossHoss's tool (thanks!), I was able to find this page that references the Chrysler standard directly.
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Questions on Oil:
I was thinking I should have a quart or two of oil handy if I ever need to add some. First place I went was the local Chrysler/Jeep dealer (not the one I bought the SFU from), the guy behind the counter tried to sell me a quart that clearly stated "for gasoline engines" on the front label. When I pushed on the issue he checked again and said they only had the oil for diesels in bulk, not quarts. So off to O'Reilly Auto Parts. Only oil "for gasoline engines". They called a couple different places like Mobil directly, and they had no cross reference for Chrysler MS-11106 called out in the manual. Any recommendations on where to get the correct oil? Makes me wonder about even taking it to the dealer for an oil changes. And forget Jiffy Lube or Rapid Oil, they'll probably try to top off the engine coolant with the wrong stuff as well.

Also, I don't even have 1000 miles yet and the oil life is down to 74%. If it continues at this rate, do I really need to change oil at 4,000 miles or just wait till 10,000?

The joys of being on the bleeding edge.....
Amazon has the Pennzoil Ultra Euro L for $51.26 for a 6 pack of quarts and a single quart for $13.72, both are eligible for Prime (free 2 day shipping).
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