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Old 12-10-2013, 11:59 PM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

One more design issue I found today during the snow/ice storm. Whenever I park my vehicle outside during a snow storm, I always tilt the wipers away from the windshield so they won't freeze and stick. Well, the flipper-glass (which is not flipping any longer) wiper can't be tilted. It only moves an inch or two away from the glass, and pulls back to the glass when you release it.
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Questions on Oil: I was thinking I should have a quart or two of oil handy if I ever need to add some. First place I went was the local Chrysler/Jeep dealer (not the one I bought the SFU from), the guy behind the counter tried to sell me a quart that clearly stated "for gasoline engines" on the front label. When I pushed on the issue he checked again and said they only had the oil for diesels in bulk, not quarts. So off to O'Reilly Auto Parts. Only oil "for gasoline engines". They called a couple different places like Mobil directly, and they had no cross reference for Chrysler MS-11106 called out in the manual. Any recommendations on where to get the correct oil? Makes me wonder about even taking it to the dealer for an oil changes. And forget Jiffy Lube or Rapid Oil, they'll probably try to top off the engine coolant with the wrong stuff as well. Also, I don't even have 1000 miles yet and the oil life is down to 74%. If it continues at this rate, do I really need to change oil at 4,000 miles or just wait till 10,000? The joys of being on the bleeding edge.....
The important part of the oil selection process for any modern euro diesel is the requirement for a low ash formula. Conventional diesel oil does not meet this requirement. Mobil 1 ESP 5w40 M formula does. Since these diesels do burn a little oil between changes failure to use the correct product will result in clogged or damaged particulate filter systems. I have used the Mobil 1 in all my MB diesels with great success. I would definitely spend the extra couple of dollars per quart and have the peace of mind this product affords.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:51 AM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

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If sales numbers aren't available, maybe one of the JNAP guys can tell us what the current run rate is. I'm guessing that after the initial flurry things have quieted down, especially with diesel fuel currently at $.80 - $1.00 more than unleaded in my area. With the cold weather we're having now, my mpgs are less than 20. These things won't help sales with the general public. When discussing diesel sales with my dealer, he felt that the diesel GC will be a "specialty" vehicle, but putting the 3.0 in the RAM 1500 could be a much better selling vehicle. I tend to agree with him. That said, I still love my unicorn and made the right decision for me.
Are you towing something to make your mileage less than 20 or are you just stuck in parking lot traffic on the freeways?
I'm surprised it's that low as I thought diesels aren't bothered as much as petrol at colder temps
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:55 PM
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Are you towing something to make your mileage less than 20 or are you just stuck in parking lot traffic on the freeways? I'm surprised it's that low as I thought diesels aren't bothered as much as petrol at colder temps
Not towing anything, just short trips in cold weather. My wife's Jetta TDI is the same - cold temps really affect the mpgs. This was to be expected, but hoped it would not drop this much. I think Shannon said he was getting 17.9mpg in the cold weather. My current EVIC is displaying 18.3mpg on the current tank.
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

I am also getting much lower MPG's in the cold weather, just not as low as yours. I'm getting 20-21. I travel 21 miles one way to work with a lot of stop and go's.
This did bother me at first, but then I remembered my last vehicle only got 12 MPG and didn't have 4WD. (Full size conversion van)
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

I've been averaging under 14mpg in cold weather over the past week (130 miles) with some idling. Very similar to what my 2013 Hemi was getting. The cold weather is having a huge impact on the diesel.
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

Yah, I'm showing 19.4 mpg in this frigid temperature... just another reason to hate winter. Not that I needed another one...

I was REALLY happy to use my remote uconnect start from the plane yesterday when I landed. I did it a bit to early though... by the time I collected my bag (I try not to check bags but since I was traveling with a firearm I was forced to) and got out to the car it had already shut back down. When I fired it back up though it was obvious it had warmed up a bit.
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:12 PM
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Re: Welcome ALL 2014+ Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel owners!

I now have a little over 1200 miles on my Jeep. My first tank of fuel I averaged 28 mpg (the low fuel warning light illuminated just before I refueled with 22 gal.)
The second and third refueling have averaged 27 and 28 mpg respectively. I've filled up when the fuel gauge was showing 1/2 tank remaining and each time it has taken around 12 gal to fill the tank. Our temperatures have ranged from -13F to 27F since I took delivery. I've used the remote start feature daily, but never longer than 10 minutes at a time. I'm running winter tires on all four wheels. I'd estimate my driving is 30% city and 70% highway with a minimum milage of 20 miles every time I use the Jeep. I drive in Eco-mode and avoid the jack rabbit starts. I also rarely encounter heavy stop-and-go traffic. I don't know the cetane rating of the Diesel I've been using, but the pump says it is a "winter blend" with a "cloud point of -10F" and a "filter clog point of -20F".
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I now have a little over 1200 miles on my Jeep. My first tank of fuel I averaged 28 mpg (the low fuel warning light illuminated just before I refueled with 22 gal.)
The second and third refueling have averaged 27 and 28 mpg respectively. I've filled up when the fuel gauge was showing 1/2 tank remaining and each time it has taken around 12 gal to fill the tank. Our temperatures have ranged from -13F to 27F since I took delivery. I've used the remote start feature daily, but never longer than 10 minutes at a time. I'm running winter tires on all four wheels. I'd estimate my driving is 30% city and 70% highway with a minimum milage of 20 miles every time I use the Jeep. I drive in Eco-mode and avoid the jack rabbit starts. I also rarely encounter heavy stop-and-go traffic. I don't know the cetane rating of the Diesel I've been using, but the pump says it is a "winter blend" with a "cloud point of -10F" and a "filter clog point of -20F".
Flip those percentages for me... 70% city/30% highway... some of that highway is heavy traffic...

Oh, and I LIKE sport mode... a LOT.
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Yikes! That really makes it tougher to justify the diesel for financial reasons- of course that's not the main reason to buy the diesel...

I spoke with a few dealers and they said that they've only sold a handful and most people aren't even interested in test driving it.
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Yikes! That really makes it tougher to justify the diesel for financial reasons- of course that's not the main reason to buy the diesel...

I spoke with a few dealers and they said that they've only sold a handful and most people aren't even interested in test driving it.
Meh... when I actually drive like a more 'normal' person I get 33+ mpg on the highway at around 65 mph.

I just love the torque too much to stay out of the throttle.
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Yikes! That really makes it tougher to justify the diesel for financial reasons- of course that's not the main reason to buy the diesel... I spoke with a few dealers and they said that they've only sold a handful and most people aren't even interested in test driving it.
As I've said before, and probably against the grain of this forum, the premium price of the engine and the fuel are going to keep the general public from buying these. Only those who understand and appreciate the benefits will buy them. I still love mine despite the winter mpgs.
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