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Old 03-17-2014, 10:13 PM
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Perhaps I missed it here, but on the other big diesel forums someone inevitably has to make the comment....so here goes....

"DEF is Urea so just pee in the tank if you want to save some money."

Now the issue is that DEF is 33% Urea and your pee must be boiled down to reach this concentration level. I'm not sure if anyone has the stomach (or nose) to handle that process! And can you imagine the superheated smell at the tailpipe?

LOL!!!

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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

Well decided to top off the DEF tank after reading this thread and seeing my level is moving toward a quarter tank. Stopped at flying J, Sat in line with a whole pile of trucks feeling kind of puny and out of place. One lady came over to the JGC and asked if I realized these fuel pumps were for trucks. Finally some trucks moved and I was able to cross some lanes to get to an empty station and the pumps were down because of the temperature I guess. It was 45 out but it was really cold in the AM. Last time I was there a month back they were closed but it was single digits.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:37 PM
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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

My DEF gauge today turned red (about 1/8) - no telltale warning yet. So decided to fill her up for the 1st time. Went to a Pilot/Flying J nearby. They have DEF at the pump at all 8 big-rig lanes. No credit cards accepted at the pump so had to go in and prepay. This truck-stop is always very busy. A trucker in the adjacent lane looked at the SFU in disbelieve. The girl behind the counter asked the other attendants what is this SUV doing at the trucker lanes... but everyone was accommodating and no one was angry at the seemingly misplaced little SUV. Added 5 gallons for a total of $14.5 in less than a minute. Based on others recommendation not to top off the DEF, I decided to just keep adding 5 gal whenever I go gauge-red. It's so easy and cheap that I don't mind repeating the process every 6K miles. Make sure you carry a wet wipe with you. Those pumps are hi-flo and the air displacement they cause is creating little DEF sputtering at the filler mouth which should be wiped off ASAP.
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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

Reviving this thread:

Driving on I-77 in South Carolina, stopped at a Hess/Wilco with DEF at pump. Couldn't pay-at-pump (need to be in their system - tracking that stuff like it was a controlled substance!), so went in to attendant. They were a bit amused, but off we went...Until the pump wouldn't work. Every time I squeezed, it would spurt 0.0X of a gallon, then stop. Did this for a few minutes, got it so it was $1.50 worth of DEF, and went in to see if they had been having issues with the pump. When I told them that it wasn't pumping, they said something to the effect of "Oh Yeah - you need this thingy in your filler neck to make it go" and waved what appeared to be an "insert (crudely culled from an OEM neck?) that had a magnet ring that was supposed to allow DEF to flow. The manager came out with me to see if we could make a go of it (I think he was just curious to see the Jeep), but we could not. Ended up buying a 2.5 gal jug. On the plus side, they didn't charge me for the $1.50 worth out of the pump...

So: Anyone else experience a DEF pump fail? Do we need to start a list of "Jeepable" DEF stations/brands?
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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

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Originally Posted by adw_tdi View Post
Reviving this thread:

Driving on I-77 in South Carolina, stopped at a Hess/Wilco with DEF at pump. Couldn't pay-at-pump (need to be in their system - tracking that stuff like it was a controlled substance!), so went in to attendant. They were a bit amused, but off we went...Until the pump wouldn't work. Every time I squeezed, it would spurt 0.0X of a gallon, then stop. Did this for a few minutes, got it so it was $1.50 worth of DEF, and went in to see if they had been having issues with the pump. When I told them that it wasn't pumping, they said something to the effect of "Oh Yeah - you need this thingy in your filler neck to make it go" and waved what appeared to be an "insert (crudely culled from an OEM neck?) that had a magnet ring that was supposed to allow DEF to flow. The manager came out with me to see if we could make a go of it (I think he was just curious to see the Jeep), but we could not. Ended up buying a 2.5 gal jug. On the plus side, they didn't charge me for the $1.50 worth out of the pump...

So: Anyone else experience a DEF pump fail? Do we need to start a list of "Jeepable" DEF stations/brands?
Had the same damn thing happen at a flying J....Had no idea you needed a "Special filler neck". Who the hell designed that? Do I need to buy one now? No idea? Are all the pumps like that?

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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

I had this issue at a Love's in Texas. They lent me a magnetic collar to put on the pump nozzle and it worked fine. Though it did make it harder to keep nozzle in the filler neck.
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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

I just filled up at a Loves in Kentucky - nothing special needed. I was on the 'big truck' side of the truck stop. It took me a min to figure out (sign I didn't see at first) that you could pay at the pump with a Master Card or your fleet card - I tried Amex a few times and failed - but easy enough.


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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

I just get it from the store (buy 2 at a time and make sure the date is recent and then store the extra in a cool place until needed) and fill up at home and I only put in 2 1/2 gallons when I get down to 1/4 of a tank (never fill it up unless it's winter). It is too much of a hassle going to the truck stop.
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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

Filled mine up at a Petro truck stop off the thruway. Luckily it was a Sunday and it was empty. I had to go inside and pay because they didn't take credit cards at the pump. (Only fleet cards)

Allowed me to fill it up to about 80% or so on the gauge before shutting off repeatedly. Which I didn't mine because I like to keep less in it to keep it fresh.

If I remember correctly it was 2.79 a gallon at the pump for DEF.


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The Blue DEF from AutoZone works well for me. I get to pick the most recent lot numbers, and the jugs are very well designed to avoid drips. I also take a picture of the lot number, so I have a record should an issue or question arise concerning source and quality of the DEF.
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Re: Where to Get DEF/ How Much Per Gallon

I'm only at 2,000 so I have a while to go before a DEF fill up, but I was wondering if you guys have had any fault lights from filling up with truck stop fluid. It is so cheep but is it worth it.


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I buy DEF from truck stops because truck stops are used by people who make their living driving diesel vehicles. Both the truck stops and truck drivers depend on having a supply of good quality DEF.
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