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where to get diesel while travelling

Hello,
Next week, we are going to Florida from Chicago. When we were picking up our new gc, we were told at the dealership, not to use the gas stations that sell diesel for the big trucks. They told us that the big trucks use different type of diesel. I had never heard about the different fuel typestype. Of course, I am new in this area.

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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

I wonder if they were speaking about the nozzles for semi trucks seen at truck stops. The nozzle on the pumps are larger for faster flow of fuel and they will not fit the capless fuel filler on the Grand Cherokee. I know that some truck stops will have automotive fuel islands that also carry diesel with the standard size fuel filler nozzle. I cannot speak for all the truck stops but several that I have stopped at have also sold diesel at the automotive fuel island with the standard nozzle. I am not aware of different types of diesel fuel for semi trucks. I have owned and driven many diesel trucks over 20 years and I have filled up my pickup trucks at semi truck fuel islands with no problems. Have a safe trip and let us know how your Jeep Ecodiesel does on your trip.
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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

Howdy from Texas,

Ok, I believe they mean major truck stops such as Flying J, Petro, Pilot etc .

When on the road, I discovered that quite a few of major truck stops carry 20 percent biodiesel (even at the 'retail' pumps) and you wont' find that out until you arrive at the truck stop!

You CAN use 20 percent bio in the Jeep but it requires a different maintenance schedule and they really don't recommend it.

Regular gas stations will carry up to a 5 percent bio blend, which is recommended by Jeep.
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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

Truck stop filling stations use a large/fast flow fill nozzle. It is currently non-compatible in size with the filler neck of the grand Cherokee eco-diesel. That being said - that's the only difference. Diesel fuel is diesel fuel-being that you're in Florida, you're more than likely to come across straight #2 diesel, but the further north you go you will more than likely come across #1/#2 winter blend diesel mix which is commonly 70/30 or 60/40 blend. You may run into filling stations that have biodiesel, but the pumps have to be labeled - the EcoDiesel is rated to run B5 only(5% bio/95% petroleum). If all of these numbers/terms appeared to be a little overwhelming, Google is your friend. Any questions, feel free to ask.


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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

Not to hijack the thread but our Diesel Sprinters has the smaller fuel filler opening. I can stick the larger fuel pump nozzle in a little and fill the tank. You have to fill slowly but it will. If I set the auto fill clip to the slowest setting it will shut off when the tank is full however the nozzle jumps a bit. Has anyone tried to use the larger one on the jeeps like I mentioned above?
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Has anyone tried to use the larger one on the jeeps like I mentioned above?

Yes, I have. It does not fit on the model year 2014 and later eco-diesel's. I have one. I had a previous generation 2008 with the Mercedes diesel, and yes it did fit. But the filler neck was slightly larger, and it had a cap on it.


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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

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Has anyone tried to use the larger one on the jeeps like I mentioned above?
Yep, not recommended.. tried it once, coated me and the side of the gc in diesel..
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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

Thank you all so much. So we should avoid Pilot, Loves .. all those big stations that are serving fuel for trucks as well, since the nozzle might not fit to ours.
We should avoid B6 to B20 diesel and stick to B5 or less.
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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

Note that Loves, Pilot, Flying J etc also have retail pumps but, in general, they pump the same grade diesel as the 'big rigs', which is 20 percent.

Best to stick to 'retail' type gas stations which either have straight diesel or 5 percent bio.

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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

If you still have sirius travel link look for gas stations it will give you miles too station and price.gas is default setting but you can set it to look for diesel !!
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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

And if you want to really get creative, BP stations have a rewards card that doesn't cost you anything to participate. The first time you use it though give you $.10 off per gallon, up to 20 gallons. Every time you use it there after and pump 20 gallons of fuel, they give you a nickel off your next purchase, which can be accumulated into a total of $.20 per gallon.

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Re: where to get diesel while travelling

I really think that it can be distilled to a few bullet points.

1. As others have said, the larger truck style nozzles don't fit. This is simple to avoid, even at large truck stops. When you drive up to a station *don't* drive to where the tractor trailers are. Drive up to where the regular cars are, and look for a pump with a green handle (unless it's BP, with their stupid corporate branding that breaks the "green is diesel" rule). A filler nozzle in this area should practically always fit. I fill up at truck stops while traveling, no sweat.

2. As for biodiesel, people have opinions about biodiesel, but you basically don't have to worry about the stuff being sold at typical stations or truck stops. As far as I know, places that have biodiesel blend put out a "biodiesel" sticker on the pump, so if you care one way or the other you can tell. B5 to B20 are okay.

3. Buy some disposable nitrile gloves to wear while refueling. Seriously. I suggest blue or purple color that will show oil, but "anything but black" is a reasonable choice. Diesel doesn't evaporate like gasoline, so pump handles tend to be grimy and oily. Something like this, but you should be able to get them at home improvement stores or even Walmart. Put it on, refuel, peel it off inside out by holding the wrist edge and pulling your hand out, dispose.

4. I use the free GasBuddy app on my smartphone and have it filter by "Diesel". Shows stations on the map, prices, etc. But seriously, you can just go to a truck stop. You *know* they have diesel, haha.
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