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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

I love the jeep we have a 2014 summit diesel. It is my wife's daily driver. It has been to the dealer 4 times, it has had 2 issues scr, and front timing cover oil leak. It is kinda disappointing for a 62$ vehicle to have the issues it did , but I am a mechanic "heavy diesel " and I understand issues will arise. With the new emissions standards the USA is on a learning curve . I mechanical issues do not bother me as much as the resale value , we were wanting a SRT grand, "my wife is awesome". Come to find out the jeep has lost almost 50% of its value. It is a fully loaded ,Summit , diesel , blue ray DVDs , and only 12,000 miles . So we are going to wait a year and then trade it . The fuel mileage is amazing on this type of vehicle. We only fill it up once a month. It is a great vehicle , I love it , but I was real disappointed in the resale value.


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^^Its nothing to be sorry about.. I just thought that was surprising, in a good way. Very very rarely do vehicles even meet the EPA estimates and you claim your average is higher than the highway.. That's good
This is my 2nd Jeep diesel (WK and now WK2) and both vehicles meet or exceed EPA mileage. The EPA tests are done on a dyno and not driven on a real road or pushed under conditions. Because they are not pushed or driven hard they lug up to speed so gas powered cars especially turbo ones who don't use the turbo to "lug" are misleading and most never get close to EPA in real world.

Whereas the opposite a diesel doesn't really shine when "lugging" up to speed and only has a slight advantage on EPA over a gas equivalent. It's in the real world where a diesel can provide power without as much a compromise and since diesels are compression ignition they need 10-50k miles to really loosen up where they get better mileage.

Last week we drove up from NY to NH for a ski trip doing 70-80 mph most of the drive and some gnarly traffic backups as is expected on the east coast. 4x4 with 4 people loaded with luggage so you couldn't see out the rear window. Even with the weight and the speed we still averaged 30-31 mpg for the trip. My EPA is 28 mpg highway and if I keep it at 65 I regularly see 34-35 mpg highway except when it's doing a passive regen and it drops to 28-29 mpg for a short time while it cleans the DPF filter.

Then towing - it's not even close as diesels tow much better than a gas truck. Where I get 20 mpg towing an enclosed trailer I've had for years, my v8 pickups would get low teens (almost 50% difference).
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

When poodling around on the highway (65mph or less), we regularly see 33/35 mpg in our JGC.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

9 months and 10K now on my 2015 GC. Zero problems. Actually this is best Jeep I have ever owned. Diesel gets a solid 28 overall mpg.


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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

No, no regrets at 4,000 miles. In fact, I love the diesel. Great mileage, great torque, quiet (for a diesel). Did have an issue with the def tank when I got the shut down message at 3800 miles--guessing the dealer 'forgot' to fill the def tank up.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

Dealer delivered my new GC with about 1/3 DEF in tank. I made them fill it up. At 10K miles it was only a little below 1/4 and I just refilled it. It's easy to monitor level via instrument cluster.


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I love the jeep we have a 2014 summit diesel. It is my wife's daily driver. It has been to the dealer 4 times, it has had 2 issues scr, and front timing cover oil leak. It is kinda disappointing for a 62$ vehicle to have the issues it did , but I am a mechanic "heavy diesel " and I understand issues will arise. With the new emissions standards the USA is on a learning curve . I mechanical issues do not bother me as much as the resale value , we were wanting a SRT grand, "my wife is awesome". Come to find out the jeep has lost almost 50% of its value. It is a fully loaded ,Summit , diesel , blue ray DVDs , and only 12,000 miles . So we are going to wait a year and then trade it . The fuel mileage is amazing on this type of vehicle. We only fill it up once a month. It is a great vehicle , I love it , but I was real disappointed in the resale value.


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I love the jeep we have a 2014 summit diesel. It is my wife's daily driver. It has been to the dealer 4 times, it has had 2 issues scr, and front timing cover oil leak. It is kinda disappointing for a 62$ vehicle to have the issues it did , but I am a mechanic "heavy diesel " and I understand issues will arise. With the new emissions standards the USA is on a learning curve . I mechanical issues do not bother me as much as the resale value , we were wanting a SRT grand, "my wife is awesome". Come to find out the jeep has lost almost 50% of its value. It is a fully loaded ,Summit , diesel , blue ray DVDs , and only 12,000 miles . So we are going to wait a year and then trade it . The fuel mileage is amazing on this type of vehicle. We only fill it up once a month. It is a great vehicle , I love it , but I was real disappointed in the resale value.


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That's why this vehicle is more of a "keeper" vehicle... My plan is a min of 6 years and possibly longer if no serious troubles. If I get that and 150K miles out if it, with this MPG and comfort...I've got my money's worth.
I may or may not buy another depending on what's out there then, but by then it wouldn't be worth much anyways..... I never buy vehicles with resale in mind, I buy what I want to drive. All vehicles are losers and life is too short to not drive what gets your blood moving...
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

Just started a 'squeaking' on the driver's side of the engine. Sounds like a bearing.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

Hated my eco as it was in the shop for the def issue, check out my old post as it needed a whole new reservoir and pump replaced in the first week of ownership. Since then I have had 0 problems and have grown to love this truck. Just turned 15k, so time will tell.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

I regret buying a Jeep. It's been broken down more times and for longer periods of time in 11k miles/ 10 months than 800k miles of Fords and GM products combined. That's just a fact. I didn't realize modern crap could break so much. Tried to dump it but it's worth approximately 50% of its new price when new a year ago.
My wife loved driving it but now prefers my stripped-down 160,000 mile GMC pickup over her loaded summit because she simply does not trust the summit any longer and the GMC has never given us one problem.
The point where I really changed my position on the car, where I really had enough, was when the last time, on a fully warrantable repair, 1st Jeep try to not cover it and the dealership had to fight for me, then Jeep made me pay $700 for a rental car when my brand new car was broken down. F*** Jeep
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I just never could get used to the extreme turbo lag. At times I found it downright scary and dangerous in heavy traffic.
There is no turbo lag on the diesel, it delivers consistent power gain through the rev range, its a low pressure turbo, not enough to cause flat spots in power. The problem is the trans (I'm guessing the torque converter) not engaging on take off from dead stop, particularly when the drivetrain is cold. Revs come up, but there is no movement for a second, then it engages and takes off. Seems to be more noticeable on uphill take offs.
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