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Old 01-25-2016, 10:58 PM
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

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I'm seeing something different in my experience with lag, as other have described, I see mine happening on turns from dead stops, but mainly when engine is cold. There is a real delay between revs going up and the trans engaging. I deal with it by stamping the accelerator, and then as the trans engages I lift off.
I had exactly this happen a week or two ago. Left hand turn from dead stop. Stomped on the accelerator to catch break in traffic and it practically idled around the corner and took off suddenly in the last third of the turn. The engine and the transmission were both under 100F at the time, probably in the 60F to 75F range (30F or so outside).

I wasn't thrilled about the lack of response when I needed it. Um, duh! More responsive acceleration under 30MPH was one of the reasons I wanted the diesel. It didn't cause an accident (I don't cut it *that* close), but it ate up some of my comfort zone.

It was almost as if an electronic noise filter thought that my sudden throttle input was just "noise" and smoothed it out erroneously. Nothing for two or three seconds and then it was full on.

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Who regrets buy the diesel?

What I do know, after 2 years of this thing being sold in the NA market you would figure this would be sorted out!!

My girlfriend has a Benz ML350, diesel. none of this lagging off the line, no shifting issues and has not been in the shop much (except for her crash into the garage door....)
Overall a much smoother driving car, but Jeep's a Jeep so I'd expect that somewhat trail type ride is in the genes of these cars. but holy sh&t

Jeep aimed for the luxury market with these cars but missed it by a mile. imho
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

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almost 14k on a late 2014 and not one problem except a reflash at 100miles. They even gave me all new wiper blades at my 2nd FREE oil change and still have 2 more changes and a free cabin filter to boot. Way better than my CRD Liberty, including fuel mileage believe it or not. Never knew you could fit an 11' Kayak in one either with the hatch closed.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

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What I do know, after 2 years of this thing being sold in the NA market you would figure this would be sorted out!!
Some owners with tunes report that the lag is gone, so it may be that this is a symptom of factory tuning to meet emissions or fuel consumption targets...... or perhaps they have deliberately taken the edge off throttle response to avoid surging or lurches.....
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

This is a a throttle delay. My Mini Cooper Clubman S (Turbo) has it unless I power brake just a little from a stop.

My 2005 Dodge Magnum 5.7 had it until it got a chip that modified the throttle response.

Manufacturers do this because the vast majority of drivers don't want the power to come on so strong that they think it is going to get away from them.

I have only test driven the JGC and I am picking up Summit 1 week from today. But I did notice a big lack of what is called tip-in throttle response.

I would be curious to know if Green Diesel has already modified the throttle response or if they could.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

GDE tune virtually eliminates throttle lag. the 2016 suppose to be better in this respect as well.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

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GDE tune virtually eliminates throttle lag. the 2016 suppose to be better in this respect as well.

It is? I can't find any info on whether or not there were changes to the 2016 EcoDiesel.
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

http://www.torquenews.com/106/ram-15...1294T.dpuf]Ram 1500, Jeep EcoDiesel Engine on Ward's 10 Best for 3rd Straight Year - Torque News
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

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http://www.torquenews.com/106/ram-15...1294T.dpuf]Ram 1500, Jeep EcoDiesel Engine on Ward's 10 Best for 3rd Straight Year - Torque News

Awesome thank you! Interesting they don't talk about whether or not theses changes apply to the GC, although it's obvious it would. It has been noted that this engine feels different in the GC vs Ram such as having more lag in the GC unfortunately. And that is primarily the reason I have stayed away from it. If that has been improved, sort of like the article hints, then I'll definitely be considering the EcoDiesel now!!!! I'm very excited to try out a 2016!
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Re: Who regrets buy the diesel?

We have a 14 approaching 50k miles, jeep has been great.. Early on they replaced the cat, other than that been trouble free. I agree with others in the the throttle tip-in ( which sucks ), and creates a bad delay, especially off road in the rocks.. I too would be interested if the GDE tune gets rid of the lag, as my 2015 Ram Eco doesn't seems to have the same delay off throttle.

YMMV
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We have a 14 approaching 50k miles, jeep has been great.. Early on they replaced the cat, other than that been trouble free. I agree with others in the the throttle tip-in ( which sucks ), and creates a bad delay, especially off road in the rocks.. I too would be interested if the GDE tune gets rid of the lag, as my 2015 Ram Eco doesn't seems to have the same delay off throttle.

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GDE gets rid of the lag. I have it and have had it since about 20k miles. Completely changes the vehicle.
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