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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

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Umm... I think we do have engine Stop/Start. Just looking at my literature, within the Groups and Options page there is within the Tech group - Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop and Go. (NHZ code).
That is a feature within the ACC - means the car will come to a complete stop and start again if you are in a traffic queue and have it engaged. Some ACC systems won't do this (hence why they added they note for Stop and Go). I think that is a feature that will freak me out...
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

But isn't that what you are talking about with regards to the UK vehicles or are we talking at cross purposes? I'm confused...
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

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But isn't that what you are talking about with regards to the UK vehicles or are we talking at cross purposes? I'm confused...
What I was mentioning related to engine stop/start - when you come to a halt, the engine cuts out and then restarts when you press the accelerator pedal (my present car has this, and it is becoming more common).
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

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What I was mentioning related to engine stop/start - when you come to a halt, the engine cuts out and then restarts when you press the accelerator pedal (my present car has this, and it is becoming more common).
Oh I see... No. Isn't that a 2015 feature? Not sure but not expecting it.

ETA: I think that would freak me out a bit.
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

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Oh I see... No. Isn't that a 2015 feature? Not sure but not expecting it.

ETA: I think that would freak me out a bit.
Well, it is down as a MY2014 feature on the UK vehicles so I expect it will be on any diesels that arrive here - but we will see...
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

I don't think for the diesel.

Chrysler to offer stop-start technology by fall
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Anything is possible ! - I am also waiting to see if we get some other changes that aren't in the AU spec sheet/brochure relating to the diesel (but are likely IMHO because we get ADII) such as the inclusion of Hill Descent Control, 1" extra ground clearance and front splash guards. I don't think Jeep knows 100% until they arrive !
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

Here is the extra button in the dash for activating/deactivating the Stop/Start ("A") - as standard in the UK, and I expect here on the diesel too...

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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

I posted this on the WWP forums but I thought I would cross post here for those that are not on both I posted a first impressions on WP and this carries on.
These are observations not criticisms....

a couple of things I want to look into a bit closer, not bugs per say but some activities I need to adapt my driving style to.

I have a very steep driveway down to my garage, more than a 45* angle I would say at the apex between the drive and the garage. My missus Hyundai I30 scrapes under the bumper going in and out. The drive is one car wide and the garage 2 cars wide so the missus drives straight in whilst I swing my car while reversing to get out.

When I reverse the jeep out and Im with the rear wheels up the drive and the front still in the garage on the flat the brakes come on, it appears the collision detection is coming on.
There could be 2 inputs for this
1) the rear sensors are picking up the hill behind the car as a static object and slamming the brakes on
2) the side sensors are picking up the garage wall on the LHS as I swing the nose around to reverse up the drive.

So far in 2 attempts to reverse out it has happened both times so it's 2 from 2.
There is an override on the dash so I can get around it but I want to work out which sensor is triggering it. Both times however, I've been focussed on getting the car out without scratching it as there is a bit of an art to getting the right swing and not wiping the nose of the car against the LHS wall

Next thing, adaptive cruise.
I've been using it around town which is probably not what it has been designed for but I'm trying to understand the best applications for the features.
When using adaptive cruise in a straight line but approaching a RH turn lane with a car in front, if the road veers slightly to the left to allow for the right turn lane to exist and the car in front goes into the turn lane and brakes then the adaptive cruise hits the anchors fairly hard, it's happened to me twice in 2 days, both times there were cars behind me but with plenty of space.
I don't like this behaviour as it seems overkill considering my cruise was set on maximum depth and could get me rear ended. I need to learn how to better adapt for that situation and maybe tap the brake to cancel the cruise if I see it happening.

self parking, more for the novelty I've used it a few times now, It is supposed to search for a suitable spot. I've had a couple of times when it seems to have missed perfectly good parking spots.

On the other hand there is a very busy strip of shops near me that are difficult to reverse parallel park into just for the volume of traffic and some seriously poor drivers in the area. I tried the park assist there and it was magic, the missus was impressed because she hates parking at those shops.

During my new car education from the sales guy he actually took me to a carpark and demonstrated the feature, the park assist actually got the angle of the swing wrong, stopped the car and asked me to move forward and then put it in reverse and continued to complete the park, so it's semi intelligent in it's activities and smart enough to know that it may take more than one swing.

Playing music via bluetooth is very much quieter than the radio of usb and I can max out the volume and its still not loud. whereas the radio I cant get over half way.

Overall at the moment I would give the car 10/10 in technology and features but 6.5/10 for fuel consumption which was always my fear. If I can get the car under 12/100 in the coming weeks I will be satisfied that it's ok, If i get down to the rated 10/100 mixed urban i think it will be a miracle.
I'm happy enough with the consumption at the moment as It's running in but I have been fairly ginger with the pedals and the car is at under 2000rpm almost all the time except for the odd squirt up a hill where it may hit 3000rpm.
The V6 is powerful enough reminding me a bit of an old VR commodore that I had years ago, but like the commodore I think it will drink.

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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

and a little bit more

one more thing, lane departure warning appears to be giving force feedback on the steering wheel, I knew nothing about this feature before but i have noticed a couple of times that the wheel felt heavier than normal where lanes merged or disappeared on a bend and the wheel would feel like it was pushing one way when I may be deliberately steering the other.
So i did some reading and found this

"LDW+ works similarly, sensing the vehicle's surroundings and providing warnings followed by corrective action. Also camera-based, LDW+ monitors the vehicle's position in its lane and the driver's use of turn signals. If the driver does not signal but the vehicle begins to leave its lane, LDW+ warns the driver with a visual cue, then gently nudges the vehicle back into its lane. The driver can feel the corrective action in the steering wheel but can also overcome it easily if the lane-change is intentional"
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So far in 2 attempts to reverse out it has happened both times so it's 2 from 2.
There is an override on the dash so I can get around it but I want to work out which sensor is triggering it.
The Grand Cherokee is the same, the sensors are super sensitive and will alert you to things that just aren't an issue. I have them off most of the time, but of on, I only pay attention when it gets crazy at you because you really are close to something.

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Playing music via bluetooth is very much quieter than the radio of usb and I can max out the volume and its still not loud. whereas the radio I cant get over half way.
Bluetooth should be relatively quieter than radio by a good margin, and USB or SD card should be between them. Bluetooth has to be compressed to transmit. I usually find about a 25-40% difference. You seem to have a greater difference than that. That could come down to the quality of the music stored on the device. Analog radio is running uncompressed from its source, usually CD or more commonly a digital rip in FLAC format, which is the same quality as CD. If you are playing music from say an itunes download, then that is really low quality to start with, then at BT compression and it's lower again. My digital music copies for storage on phone are always at 320kbps AAC to reduce the quality loss as much as possible.
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Re: Australian MY14 KL Cherokee thread

[QUOTE=SNUKE;1043976]The Grand Cherokee is the same, the sensors are super sensitive and will alert you to things that just aren't an issue. I have them off most of the time, but of on, I only pay attention when it gets crazy at you because you really are close to something.

In my case the car is actively braking whilst I'm reversing. It's unnerving as I'm reversing on an angle and going backwards uphill, i'll look at the sensitivity adjustment
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