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Theres a new ZF 8 speed

Would that be the ZF that's scheduled for 2018's or 19? I though I read somewhere that JGC will get the same tranny across the board.


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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat

I vote for Jim_in_PA to be our official HR/mediator person, just reading what he wrote I can just imagine his calm voice sounded like he's explaining to a 5 year old.
Keep up the good work Jim you have a real gift there bud.

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Would that be the ZF that's scheduled for 2018's or 19? I though I read somewhere that JGC will get the same tranny across the board.


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No...there will be different trannys depending on hp/tq output. For 2019 the hemis are done.
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The Hell Kitty puts put 650 ftlbs of torque and has the ZF 8HP90 which is rated at 664 ftlbs so I am thinking that is their starting point with the trans...fwiw, I believe it was the diffs that were mentioned as the concern not the trans, just speculating on thin info.

I believe the ZF90 is rated at 1000 ft lbs at least according to ZF website.



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No...there will be different trannys depending on hp/tq output. For 2019 the hemis are done.

Do tell

So it's V6 turbo and a I4?



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I believe the ZF90 is rated at 1000 ft lbs at least according to ZF website.



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I think its 664 ft/lbs for the 8HP90 matched to a gas engine which = 900 nm(newton meter) or if its diesel you can get 1000 nm out of it.
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat

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I believe the ZF90 is rated at 1000 ft lbs at least according to ZF website.

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The ZF 8HP90 torque rating is 900NM or 1000NM depending on application. FCA uses the 900NM (663.8 ftlb) for the Hellcat.
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat

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I think its 664 ft/lbs for the 8HP90 matched to a gas engine which = 900 nm(newton meter) or if its diesel you can get 1000 nm out of it.

Yes you are correct it's 1000nm not ft/lbs just checked the site again.


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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat

Montreal isn't a rich city compared to others, however, I see my daily dose of Range Rovers, M-B G-Wagens, and Cayennes. There is a (small) market for image cars/SUVs over $100,000, that never get used for their intended purpose so I'm not worried about FCA's ability to sell the Hellcat powered Trackhawk.


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I vote for Jim_in_PA to be our official HR/mediator person, just reading what he wrote I can just imagine his calm voice sounded like he's explaining to a 5 year old.
Well, when you earn your living explaining state-of-the-art and bleeding-edge telecom technology to government bureaucrats...

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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat

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You forgot to throw the X5/6M in there too.

I'd bet the farm the Hellcat will be significantly faster than all its competition. Just look at the guys with superchargers on their '14/15 SRT's already running 0-60 in the mid 3's.

None of these SUV's are built for anything resembling off-road, so no, you can't say one will be better in the dirt than the other. At least Jeep has a snow mode with variable torque split.
WRONG.

The Range Rover Sport SVR and the Porsche Cayenne Turbo S both have actual Off Road features and capability. BTW, a simple Google Image Search shows that BOTH can actually go off road (unlike the Jeep SRT).

Range Rover Sport SVR:






Porsche Cayenne Turbo S:





And telling the TRUTH isn't being a Troll. But I guess some folks can't handle the truth.
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Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat

good for them

but its a useless pointless feature

the Jeep is still awd with locking rear diff

and that will get it as far as it needs to go off road, that video of the porsche above, a srt could tackle that easily



if i want to go off road ill buy an actual 4X4

if anything id like it even lower ex factory

i have had another softroader with single speed transfer case and less clearance than the srt and it did everything i needed it to, if i was tackling terrain that required lockers and lowrange, i sure as shit wouldnt be taking a 100k car there
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