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Old 06-27-2009, 06:30 PM
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Brake Stalling

Do you brake stall at the track? If so, what RPM do you brake stall to?

Is brake stalling bad? I know its bad for the stock trans (if you hold the rpms too high) but when I say bad, I mean does it hurt the timing?

I've been brake stalling at the track to 1500 RPM's all the time but I am afraid that I may be pulling some timing out. I heard that it does it. So I am now worried.
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:41 PM
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Re: Brake Stalling

I've never heard of it affecting timing before....
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Re: Brake Stalling

brake stalling?
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brake stalling?
Power braking...
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Re: Brake Stalling

Ok ,I thought it was something like stalling the motor. lol
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Re: Brake Stalling

Stalling up a stock converter (may help) but is not really effective since most stock convertors stall at around 1800 RPM give or take. I think the HEMI is a little higher. you'll just have to try Stalling it up some might be effective to a point. Just gotta keep trying different ones at the track and see where is best. Watch for a trans temp light though.
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Stalling up a stock converter (may help) but is not really effective since most stock convertors stall at around 1800 RPM give or take. I think the HEMI is a little higher. you'll just have to try Stalling it up some might be effective to a point. Just gotta keep trying different ones at the track and see where is best. Watch for a trans temp light though.
I was going to say I didn't think 1500 RPM was enough to lock the converter... I was thinking somewhere closer to 2K.
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I was going to say I didn't think 1500 RPM was enough to lock the converter... I was thinking somewhere closer to 2K.
You don't want the convertor to lock you want it to slip in a sense so that the engine spins up. You only want the convertor to lock when you are at a 1 to 1 gear ratio or lower than one.
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You don't want the convertor to lock you want it to slip in a sense so that the engine spins up. You only want the convertor to lock when you are at a 1 to 1 gear ratio or lower than one.
Man what u know about brake stalling u only been to the dam track 3 times since i know ya lol...Joe i stall at 2500 RPMS now when i was stock it was around 1700 or so i had no problems at all in my 4.ol with nos and now my built 5.9 when it had a stock tranny in it...
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Man what u know about brake stalling u only been to the dam track 3 times since i know ya lol...Joe i stall at 2500 RPMS now when i was stock it was around 1700 or so i had no problems at all in my 4.ol with nos and now my built 5.9 when it had a stock tranny in it...
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I will have to go to E-Town on a Test and Tune night and experiment!
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