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Here, this may help. It's recall data from 05 to 10. My model and trim 08 has had not one recall.

Jeep Grand Cherokee WK - Recalls 2005-2006
Respectfully, GM never recalled the 7.5" rear-end in the LS1 Camaro/Trans Am's. EVERYONE knows that is a problem. Mine blew up at 600rpm backing out of the drive-way...

Recalls are just what a company admits to...not what's really wrong.

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Respectfully, GM never recalled the 7.5" rear-end in the LS1 Camaro/Trans Am's. EVERYONE knows that is a problem. Mine blew up at 600rpm backing out of the drive-way...

Recalls are just what a company admits to...not what's really wrong.
True, but in all honesty the 7.5 rear wasnt all that strong. But all the recalls I posted are major issues. The t-case one by example, came about cuz cars were rolling away. But recalls arent whats admitted to when there is plenty of examples to the problem that were brought up. But really tho the jgc is a good vehicle and no car is without some quirk lol
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How does the '09-'10 V8 4x4 model compare to what he suggested, and '11?

I empathize with him. My 370Z has soured me on EVER buying another Japanese vehicle again, even though many Z owners have had reliable cars.
Well the wk2 much heavier then the wk, mainly because of the full independent suspension and all the stiffening needed to support it. The hemi power pretty much stayed the same and for 11 carried over the transmission. The main difference is that the wk2 is the evolution of the wk and is an improvement on it. Mainly in the technology behind the 4x4.
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Re: Hello...I don't know what I'm doing here, exactly...

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Well the wk2 much heavier then the wk, mainly because of the full independent suspension and all the stiffening needed to support it. The hemi power pretty much stayed the same and for 11 carried over the transmission. The main difference is that the wk2 is the evolution of the wk and is an improvement on it. Mainly in the technology behind the 4x4.
The interiors are very similar. I looked at both. Will the 09 stomp the 11 from a dig or roll? How much advantage really is the rear irs on and offroad?
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The interiors are very similar. I looked at both. Will the 09 stomp the 11 from a dig or roll? How much advantage really is the rear irs on and offroad?
Well I know as far as the srt is concerned it will walk an 11to13. The 14s however have the new 8speed and are fast. I think irs limits axle articulation.
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Well I know as far as the srt is concerned it will walk an 11to13. The 14s however have the new 8speed and are fast. I think irs limits axle articulation.
A quick Google looks like the new 8 speed is worth about half a second at the 0 to 60 and quarter mile. The newer mk2 with the 5 speed gives up a quarter to half second it seems. Skid pad tests show the new irs might be worth .02 to .03g.

I like the older style. Performance is a near wash. Reliability is arguable. Price and style favor the obvious in my case.
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I too am not looking to start an argument either, just sharing the only direct knowledge I have of the WK platform. Like I said, friends spends more time being towed than driven. I know they have over 100 on it by now, but it's always given them problems. I don't really use quantity and type of recall as a indication of overall reliability really...how much time it sits in the shop after it breaks unexpectedly matters to me. I can plan a time for recall or TSB. Was theirs made last hour of a Friday on a holiday weekend over an Indian burial ground? Dunno...but I just never really dug the design in the first place. I liked the interior on the WJ better, and the Summit interior of the WK2 is far superior to anything in a Jeep before it.

FWIW I've been happy with my '11 WK2. Only had it in for a couple TSBs (intermediate shaft, rear shocks). I hope it continues that way. I've only got 29K miles on it right now...

Per a Jeep service guy, stay away from the '14. It seems like that is the aberration in the "mature product" ideology. They added so much new tech it's been a nightmare to sort out apparently.

I'd suggest trying a '10 WK and an '11 WK2 and see which you like more and go with it.
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I too am not looking to start an argument either, just sharing the only direct knowledge I have of the WK platform. Like I said, friends spends more time being towed than driven. I know they have over 100 on it by now, but it's always given them problems. I don't really use quantity and type of recall as a indication of overall reliability really...how much time it sits in the shop after it breaks unexpectedly matters to me. I can plan a time for recall or TSB. Was theirs made last hour of a Friday on a holiday weekend over an Indian burial ground? Dunno...but I just never really dug the design in the first place. I liked the interior on the WJ better, and the Summit interior of the WK2 is far superior to anything in a Jeep before it.

FWIW I've been happy with my '11 WK2. Only had it in for a couple TSBs (intermediate shaft, rear shocks). I hope it continues that way. I've only got 29K miles on it right now...

Per a Jeep service guy, stay away from the '14. It seems like that is the aberration in the "mature product" ideology. They added so much new tech it's been a nightmare to sort out apparently.

I'd suggest trying a '10 WK and an '11 WK2 and see which you like more and go with it.
To your last...exactly! The 09 and 10 had precious little new.

As to sitting...that's just money. I've watched my dealership rip a driveline out and replace it in less time than the new motor long block to arrive. Just my impression, but without finding a rare gem of a mechanic. ...quickly...correctly...cheaply...pick two...If you're lucky.
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I too am not looking to start an argument either, just sharing the only direct knowledge I have of the WK platform. Like I said, friends spends more time being towed than driven. I know they have over 100 on it by now, but it's always given them problems. I don't really use quantity and type of recall as a indication of overall reliability really...how much time it sits in the shop after it breaks unexpectedly matters to me. I can plan a time for recall or TSB. Was theirs made last hour of a Friday on a holiday weekend over an Indian burial ground? Dunno...but I just never really dug the design in the first place. I liked the interior on the WJ better, and the Summit interior of the WK2 is far superior to anything in a Jeep before it.

FWIW I've been happy with my '11 WK2. Only had it in for a couple TSBs (intermediate shaft, rear shocks). I hope it continues that way. I've only got 29K miles on it right now...

Per a Jeep service guy, stay away from the '14. It seems like that is the aberration in the "mature product" ideology. They added so much new tech it's been a nightmare to sort out apparently.

I'd suggest trying a '10 WK and an '11 WK2 and see which you like more and go with it.
Could have just gotten a bad one I think. But its as I said I dog mine and no issues. My build thread will prove how much hard I run her. Maybe I got a good one who knows. I know it was very well taken care of before me and im only the second owner so when I got it it was already broke in.
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Well, I found a 2010 with just a hair under 70K miles on it.

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Has a trailer hitch so I assume tow-package
Has the optional 18" rims I believe
Does NOT have a trail-rated badge

Looks to be in good condition, clear Carfax, regular maintenance has been properly performed, etc.

What should this vehicle sell for?
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I'd just check edmunds.com. They are usually pretty brutally honest about prices. KBB tends to be a bit optimistic. Check them both and average them? Or do what I do - watch all car sales outlets you can and observe what year, mile, and option vehicles are selling for. You'll know a good deal when you see it. Like when I found my '11 left over Summit for $10K off! I knew that was a great deal because used were selling for more! I jumped on it right away...
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Well. I am likely to pick mine up tomorrow. What should I look for before I sign the dotted line?
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