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I beg to differ on the Audi.
The Q5 comes with a supercharged 3.0 with 272hp which will do a 1/4 mile in 14.2 secs
The SQ5 with 354hp runs it in 13.5.

The Hemi non SRT Jeeps are all around 15 sec.
That's more like 2.0T territory.

IMO the Hemi isn't worth it. I'd go with the 4x4 V6 unless you're going with the SRT8.
It has plenty of power for an everyday driver.
You are correct, but the 3.0 starts at $51,900 and costs close to $60,000 when optioned comparatively to the JGC 4x4 V8. You can add on even more if you are looking at the SQ5, which ends up closer to SRT territory in price (and performance) when optioned comparatively. The 5.7L HEMI is ~.5 seconds faster to 60 than the 2.0L Audi Q5, which isn't a ton but it is significant. It splits the difference between the JGC V6 and JGC V8 in terms of speed. Also, I might add that the Q5 range has not gotten fantastic reviews. Car and Driver said it drove like a "dinner roll".

I disagree with you on the HEMI. It isn't that much more expensive and feels way more powerful. The engine note is fantastic and does make the JGC pretty quick, making the JGC pretty fun to drive in sport mode (even if it doesn't feel that sporty). Honestly, I most likely would not have bought the JGC if only a V6 was offered. The only reason I would have bought one would be if I was getting to use the off-road capability all of the time, which I don't get to do. I am normally going to be driving on the street, and I want something that will be pleasurable to drive on-road as well as off-road. The V6 is fine, but boring (and yes, I drove one, a 2014 JGC Limited 4x2 with Lux II, for 2 weeks while my Jeep was in the shop). I also definitely would not have bought one without 4x4. The 4x4 is more important to me than the engine, but that is probably just because I am a Jeep purist and intend to off-road. However, I did notice a huge difference in traction between the 4x2 rental and my 4x4. I have not experienced any tire slipping/hydroplaning in my 4x4, or even any real slipping on snow or ice, but the 4x2 would break traction in the rain (when starting from a stop semi-aggressively, turning onto a street semi-agresssivly, and just going through puddles on the side of the road going 25-50 MPH).

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Re: V6 4x4 or V8 4x2

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You are correct, but the 3.0 starts at $51,900 and costs close to $60,000 when optioned comparatively to the JGC 4x4 V8. You can add on even more if you are looking at the SQ5, which ends up closer to SRT territory in price (and performance) when optioned comparatively. The 5.7L HEMI is ~.5 seconds faster to 60 than the 2.0L Audi Q5, which isn't a ton but it is significant. It splits the difference between the JGC V6 and JGC V8 in terms of speed. Also, I might add that the Q5 range has not gotten fantastic reviews. Car and Driver said it drove like a "dinner roll".
Q5 range?
If I believed everything I read I wouldn't have ordered a JGC given the recent review by consumer reports. Like JDPower ranking the Q5 2nd most reliable luxury compact SUV.

If your really interested in HP/torque the Q5's engine choices are far more tunable. A flash can get you 40hp for ~1k. Btw a 3.0 starts under 45 MSRP.

We have an 11 Q5 with 70k that we bought new. I've done all maintenance since day one and it's been the most reliable car we've owned.
The interior is also a step up from the JGC. If we didn't already have one I would have opted for one over the Jeep . Coming from an A4 Avant myself I'm hoping my choice to go back to Jeep isn't a big disappointment.
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You sum it up quite well man...you are correct. This would be my first Jeep and American car ever (I've had VW, Audi, BMW, Porsche) and I have to say the build andinterior quality is outstanding.
I am signing the deal today I think and if dealer gives me a good incentive, shooting for 4x4 V8 Overland...
Have a great weekend dudes...
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I agree with you on the build and interior quality, it is very, very good. The interior rivals those of luxury brands (as does the JGC overall).

Good choice with the JGC Overland V8 4x4 and good luck with the buy.
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You are correct, but the 3.0 starts at $51,900 and costs close to $60,000 when optioned comparatively to the JGC 4x4 V8. You can add on even more if you are looking at the SQ5, which ends up closer to SRT territory in price (and performance) when optioned comparatively. The 5.7L HEMI is ~.5 seconds faster to 60 than the 2.0L Audi Q5, which isn't a ton but it is significant. It splits the difference between the JGC V6 and JGC V8 in terms of speed. Also, I might add that the Q5 range has not gotten fantastic reviews. Car and Driver said it drove like a "dinner roll".

I disagree with you on the HEMI. It isn't that much more expensive and feels way more powerful. The engine note is fantastic and does make the JGC pretty quick, making the JGC pretty fun to drive in sport mode (even if it doesn't feel that sporty). Honestly, I most likely would not have bought the JGC if only a V6 was offered. The only reason I would have bought one would be if I was getting to use the off-road capability all of the time, which I don't get to do. I am normally going to be driving on the street, and I want something that will be pleasurable to drive on-road as well as off-road. The V6 is fine, but boring (and yes, I drove one, a 2014 JGC Limited 4x2 with Lux II, for 2 weeks while my Jeep was in the shop). I also definitely would not have bought one without 4x4. The 4x4 is more important to me than the engine, but that is probably just because I am a Jeep purist and intend to off-road. However, I did notice a huge difference in traction between the 4x2 rental and my 4x4. I have not experienced any tire slipping/hydroplaning in my 4x4, or even any real slipping on snow or ice, but the 4x2 would break traction in the rain (when starting from a stop semi-aggressively, turning onto a street semi-agresssivly, and just going through puddles on the side of the road going 25-50 MPH).

Agree and you often read about people who buy the V6 and then wish they had bought the v8, I don't remember reading any that bought the v8 and then wish they had bought the v6 lol
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Agree and you often read about people who buy the V6 and then wish they had bought the v8, I don't remember reading any that bought the v8 and then wish they had bought the v6 lol
It's not as uncommon as you think.
I had a v8 s4 and ended up selling and buying a 2.0t a4 because the added expenses for gas and insurance for me were pointless. Only benefit I had was getting to the next red light faster and bragging rights of having the larger engine.
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However, I did notice a huge difference in traction between the 4x2 rental and my 4x4. I have not experienced any tire slipping/hydroplaning in my 4x4, or even any real slipping on snow or ice, but the 4x2 would break traction in the rain (when starting from a stop semi-aggressively, turning onto a street semi-agresssivly, and just going through puddles on the side of the road going 25-50 MPH).
The hydroplaning was likely due to the stock, barely average, all-season tires...

We had a heavy summer rain storm here in the Boston area shortly after I bought my 2014 Limited 4x4 and I could feel the tires hydroplaning a bit on highway puddles. I swapped to Hancook A/Ts and haven't had any problems in rain, slush, snow, mud, etc.

I agree that 4x4 makes a big difference in handling adverse conditions over a 4x2 and I too would recommend getting a 4x4. Otherwise, you may as well just get a Murano...
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It's not as uncommon as you think.
I had a v8 s4 and ended up selling and buying a 2.0t a4 because the added expenses for gas and insurance for me were pointless. Only benefit I had was getting to the next red light faster and bragging rights of having the larger engine.
everyone has different needs and values that's why they make different engines. The difference between a rated 19mpg for the v6 4x4 and 16mpg for the v8 4x4 isn't much to me and it is even less on real life highway mileage where they are nearly equal. If the deference was 16 vs 30 or something like that there may have been something to think about but 3 mpg difference, negative there was never a thought in my mind on that one. you value capturing that 3 mpg difference I value the 6.5 0-60 vs 7.5 0-60, neither are right or wrong, everyone is different that's what makes the world go round.
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, neither are right or wrong, everyone is different that's what makes the world go round.
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In most situations it's more so a preference more then a necessity.
If that wasn't true the SRT8 wouldn't sell so well.

If I had to guess id say 95% of JGC owners will never tow to capacity.
I'm one of those as I only ordered the tow package for mountain bike hauling.
You make a strong argument man...I drove the V6 and is not slouch at all...I have also been thinking of some aftermarket help (cold air intake, ECU, etc) to make up for some...Hemi definitely a sweet souding engine and it MOVES but again, as people say, it is not an SRT so it basically is a big engine on a heavy , non-sporty SUV...this is proving to be harder than I thought HA.

This is a good read on the Overland 4x4 V6...seems new gearbox makes a big difference...

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...at-test-review
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Re: V6 4x4 or V8 4x2

Hey guys,
So I guess I might be picking up an Overland, V8, 4x4 after all...Will post pics once I instal spacers and a few other goodies

Cheers mates and thanks for all the feedback...

Pd: Plastidip in the near future I think...
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Hey guys,
So I guess I might be picking up an Overland, V8, 4x4 after all...Will post pics once I instal spacers and a few other goodies

Cheers mates and thanks for all the feedback...

Pd: Plastidip in the near future I think...
Congrats, I knew you would make the right decision.
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Thank you guys... Yeah, I guess difference is not huge so ideally V8 4x4 overland is the ticket... I think it is a mental block paying 50k for an SUV when there are so many options out there for that $.
We shall see
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Look around in that price range. You might end up with the V8 Overland 4x4, or you might end up with something else. Unfortunately, if you do want a real SUV, the options are disappearing faster than beer at an Irish party. But, you might not really want/need one to get the "its not a station wagon or minivan, dammit" styling.
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