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Old 04-18-2015, 06:13 PM
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build

Awesome build so far, Jeff!

Really glad to see you're ditching the RRO sliders for the Mopar ones. You'll have a far better setup with those and much more protection. I need some badly too!

Same with the AUS Chief Products skids. I really want/need those, but having a hard time coping with the shipping costs being more or almost as much as the products themselves. :/ All in due time though, but looking forward to seeing what you think of them and how they do on your Jeep.

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Old 04-18-2015, 08:30 PM
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Awesome build so far, Jeff!

Really glad to see you're ditching the RRO sliders for the Mopar ones. You'll have a far better setup with those and much more protection. I need some badly too!

Same with the AUS Chief Products skids. I really want/need those, but having a hard time coping with the shipping costs being more or almost as much as the products themselves. :/ All in due time though, but looking forward to seeing what you think of them and how they do on your Jeep.

Keep on with the good work!
Thanks Pinetar! The mopar rockrails are going to be great but it will probably be one of the last things I do, just because I already have some protection there. Also, they are pretty pricey and I have alot of other things to buy still. I am still waiting on the Chief stuff...it shipped a while ago but it takes forever to get here and there is no tracking for them. I will let you know how they work out as soon as I get them and install.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:16 PM
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build

Sorry for the delay but here is the updated list:

Mods Already Done:
-Rocky Road Outfitters' Bumper Bar
-Rocky Road Outfitters' Brush Bar Kit
-Rocky Road Outfitters' Adventure Rack w/Axle Mount, Can Carriers, Lightbar, HiLift Mount & Ax/Shovel Dual Mount
-Rocky Road Outfitters' Pre-runner Skidplate
-Rocky Road Outfitters' Supersliders
-Smittybilt XRC9.5 Winch w/Synthetic Line
-Front Tow Hooks
-Custom Start/Push Button (By Forum Member JeepJunkie)
-Factory Skidplates
-Swapout Summit Honeycomb Grill Inserts with Black Inserts-Red Dirt Road RD04 18" +12 Wheels
-Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac 275/65R18 Tires
-Blackout Chrome/Platinum Trim & Badging (with factory parts as available)
-Scepter Plastic Water Can (5 Gallon)
-Scepter Plastic Diesel Can (5 Gallon)
-KC HiLites 20" Flex Array LED Light Bar
-KC HiLites 6" Pro-Sport Gravity LED (x4)

Ordered and Delivered but Not Installed
-KC HiLites Cyclone Accessory Light (x2 for Underhood Light)
-KC HiLites Flex Dual LED Light System (x1)
-All Wiring for KC HiLites Lighting

Ordered and Not Yet Delivered
-Uniden PRO520XL CB Radio (CB with the most features that will still fit in the cubby above the SD Slot/Cig Lighter/Aux Input Assembly 4-1/2 W x 6-3/4 D x 1-3/8 H)
-Chief Products Sump Protection Plate
-Chief Products Transmission Protection Plate
-TRED 1100 Off Road Recovery Device
-KC HiLites Flex Dual LED Light System (x1)

Future Mods
-Switches for Off Road Lighting
-Vinyl Wrap Remaining Chrome/Platinum Trim Black
-Vinyl Wrap Brake Calipers and Tail Pipes Red (3M Hi-Temp Vinyl)
-Vinyl Wrap Foglight Bezels Red
-Changeout Black Tow Hooks for Red Tow Hooks
-Lockpick for Nav/Camera/Screen Mirroring
-Front Camera(s)
-Custom "Black Widow" Badges
-Replacing the RRO Supersliders with the MOPAR Rocksliders (Maybe getting these Powdercoated Red)

Wishlist:
-Custom Cut-In Fender Flares to Give Better Clearance for the New Tires (if anyone ever creates one or I can figure out how to make custom flares)
-Chief Products Pre-Runner (If it looks better and offers better protection than RRO's)
-2" Add-on Lift for QuadraLift System (if anyone ever creates one)
-Escort 9500ci w/ Laser ShifterPro Sensors (if I can justify spending $2K on a radar detector that will probably never save me that much money, lol)

I think this is everything I have ordered or thought of so far. Hopefully I get it all done before too long...
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:53 PM
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build

Did a little work the last few weekends so it's time for an update! Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures yet but I will get some up after my Joshua Tree trip this weekend.

I finished installing all the lights from KC and wiring up the switches. The 4 Pro-Sport lights were installed on the RRO lightbar on the roof rack. The installation of the actual lights was easy, as there were 4 tabs on the lightbar straight from the factory. It was as simple as putting a nut on the stud from the bottom of the light. The only issue I had was the nut I used was not the factory nut but a security (Penta) nut that I ordered through my work (they wouldn't sell to individuals and I happen to work for an electrical contractor so I just ordered them through the job I am working on). The nuts were very hard to tighten. The other issue was how to run the wiring from the light into the car and to the switch location. I ended up running the wiring down the sides of the roof rack, 2 on each side, (on the inside so they are not visible) using black zip ties to attach them. This was not my preferred installation but I does look good and is way less difficult than my original idea of drilling holes in the roof rack and pulling the wires through the rack. When the cables reach the back of the Jeep, they run on the roof for a few inches before diving into the tailgate and into the grommet for the tailgate wiring on the back of the Jeep. From there, I ran the wires along the top of the tailgate opening inside the headliner and down into the wall panel where the sub-woofer is located. I tapped the power off the 12V outlet (so I would only have to run the switch wires up front). The excess wiring was then coiled up and left inside the panel along with the relays. Then I taped the switch wiring to the CB coax I had run (I will touch on the coax later) and continued running the wire to the front of the car (below the door sills). I brought all these wires up behind the glove box and left them there until later...

Next was the KC Flex 20" LED light bar and 2 dual flex arrays. The 2 Dual Flex LEDs were very easy to install and I used the same type of nuts (Penta Security Nuts) on these as well. The 20" Lightbar was a different story. It just didn't quite fit where I had planned on putting it. The KC mounting bracket makes the thing a little wider and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to fit on the mounting holes and have it tuck under the RRO bumper bar. So we ended up drilling holes into the top of the RRO brush bar and installed it there. This meant that it was now the leading edge of my car which was not ideal but the only way I could fit it there. The next day before we wired it up, I was going over it with my Dad and telling him how uncomfortable I was with it's location and he had a great idea. Ditch the factory brackets and use some Simpson Strong Tie L brackets. We ended up running up to home depot and getting them. We then drilled the same 4-hole pattern as the small Allen bolts have on the back of the light bar (they are used to connect each "pod" of the lightbar together). We bolted the brackets on and got it to fit where I originally wanted it! Again we used the Penta security nut to secure it to the mounting tabs provided on the RRO Bumper Bar. The wiring for all three was run into the grill (in the bottom most center honeycomb opening) and then followed the wiring for the winch that we ran into the engine compartment and hooked up there. The switch wiring was run through the grommet on the passenger side, located behind the glove box. There is joined up with the switch wiring from the back of the Jeep.

During this work we were also working on the CB antenna and wiring. I attached the CB antenna to the roof rack using a PIAA aluminum light mount for motorcycles/ATVs. I ground off the coating on the parts that make contact (so it would have better grounding continuity). I then had the coax (RG-213) dive into the tailgate too (this time in the grommet for the washer fluid). From there it followed the lighting/switch wiring previously mentioned.

Next up was taking apart the interior in the front of the Jeep to remove the cubby and hopefully install the CB on top of the shelf created by the USB/SD Card/12V Outlet and cut out the back of the cubby to sink the CB back so the front of it would sit flush with the media center or at least sink it back enough for the door to close...Unfortunately, this was impossible. There is a metal structure located directly behind the cubby which actually caused the CB to be pushed out even further (because the coax couldn't come in directly behind the connection point on the CB and therefore would have to make bends inside the cubby before connecting to the CB). That meant I had to install it somewhere else. The only other spot I could think of that would still be somewhat concealed and still accessible if needed was in the glove box. So I installed it there on the self (for the manual). I think I can install a better/bigger CB in the glove box (I had bought Uniden PRO520XL because of it's small size) with some small modifications, so I ordered the Uniden 980 Bearcat and will install it soon.

The last bit was to install the switches. I had done alot of thinking about the switches and where to install them. I had considered the LED ring style switches and the Rocker switches from OTRATTW but was having some trouble on where to put them. I ended up finding what I thought was the perfect place for the switches. When I had the cubby out I saw that there was room under the cubby towards the front of it. So I decided to just use the switches KC provided (I may switch them to the LED ring type later but I think they look good) and install them on the sloping section on the front of the cubby. This makes them easy to reach and the door can be closed if wanted. Also, I still have the shelf on top of the media center if I want to put anything in the cubby (plus there is still room behind the switches for stuff too).

Sorry for the long post and not having any pictures yet but I promise to put some up in the next week or two! I hope everyone is enjoying the build and if anyone has any questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:42 PM
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build

This is one bad ass build! Enjoy it!
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build

Jeff -

GC looks awesome - you put some serious effort and money into creating a truly unique truck.

Question - how happy are you with the Rocky Road roof rack system? I would love to get one. I'm not crazy about the cross bar connection, but still looks great.

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Jeff -

GC looks awesome - you put some serious effort and money into creating a truly unique truck.

Question - how happy are you with the Rocky Road roof rack system? I would love to get one. I'm not crazy about the cross bar connection, but still looks great.

Pete
Hey Pete,

I am really happy with the RRO roof rack so far. It has allowed me to add on several important pieces of equipment, looks good and has allowed me to store a bunch more things inside the vehicle (where the tire used to be).

There are a couple cons though. The biggest thing is that either the rack or the tire on top of the rack has been causing problems with my SiriusXM. Sometimes my SiriusXM will cut in and out (it tends to happen more when headed East or Southeast) even when there are no obstructions around me. The other small issue is that my recovery tracks are about 1/2" to tall to fit on the underside of the rack and I don't see another good way to install them (I realize this is a bit nit-picky and that it's not RRO's fault). I am thinking of possibly putting them on the passenger side, standing on their side, but I have to figure out a way to mount them.

As far as the crossbar connections, what are your concerns? It was fairly easy to install and seems very sturdy to me. I have had the rack fully loaded and a person standing on top of it without any issues.

Thanks for the kind words and if you have any more questions feel free to ask away!
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build

JMessick82,

REALLY nice setup!

You're the only newer wk2 i've seen with the RRO winch setup (and so many mods!).
I have a huge list of mods i am going to do as well, i just haven't had much time to do them.
I already received the RRO winch bumper, i am just waiting to get the warn VR10000-s winch.

Heres what mines looks like when it's dirty!


Anyway, keep up the good work! I think you're also in socal, we should go off roading!
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Thanks ccie-ar!

I think you will like the winch set up. I love it even though I haven't really had to use it yet (knock on wood). Another build you may want to check out is Zybane's Arctic Diesel Build. He did alot of the same mods before I did. About off roading sometime, I would love to. I try to go once a month or so. I am actually doing Joshua tree this weekend with my Dad and nephew. PM me sometime and we'll plan a trip!
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