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This is another awesome mod thread, I still did not see pictures of the lights, but maybe I missed them.
I think they are on the 4th page of the thread. If they disappeared or something, let me know and I will try to find them to re-post. Thanks!

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The Supersliders. These were a bit more tricky. First off, they were quite a bit shorter than I thought they would be but they still look good and I don't plan on doing any huge rock crawling so I think they will work for my uses. Next, as I went to install the supersliders, I noticed that the holes on the rock rails didn't line up with the holes they were supposed to bolt through on the pinch weld. No matter what I tried they were still at least 1/4" to 1/2" off. The only way I could get them on was to remove the plastic rocker panel (I think that is what it's called, it's just the plastic body piece under the doors). So I removed it and they installed pretty easy after that. I have called RRO and they said I should not of had to do this. They asked me to send pictures and measurements and such, which I plan on doing this weekend. I am wondering if it is due to the Summit having a different body piece there than the other trimlines? That was it for Saturday. Up next is that Sunday's work...

Did you have to take the lower plastic pieces off for the supersliders...or was that by choice? Im about to get mine coming, but do not want to have to delete that trim
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Did you have to take the lower plastic pieces off for the supersliders...or was that by choice? Im about to get mine coming, but do not want to have to delete that trim
Yes, I had to take them off. The Supersliders would not fit. You shouldn't need to though. My Jeep is a Summit and from what I gather, those plastic pieces are different on the summit. When I called the guys over at RRO that were surprised to find out that it wouldn't fit. We finally came to the conclusion from looking at pictures of the different models that the plastic pieces hang down between 1/2"-1" more on a Summit than another of the other trim lines (besides SRT) which meant I couldn't get the bolts in at the pinch welds for the supersliders unless I took off the plastic pieces. I see that your Jeep is an Altitude so I don't think you should have any issues with it. I hope this helps!

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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build - note on Rocky Road kits on Summits

Just a friendly note to people like me who do not have Jeff's build capabilities:

1. Rocky Road Outfitters are great folks with great quality, but without knowing what you are doing and able to make serious mods on the fly, the Summit park sensors and ACC will be inoperable with their winch mount kit, bumper bar and brush bar kit.

2. I took mine to a "reputable" body shop to have done (I don't have the knowledge or the tools) and now I am left with four gaping holes in my bumper because they could not figure out how to install the kits without nuking my ACC and park sensors. I had to have the entire winch mount kit and brush bar/bumper bar kits removed because I had to choose between my technology package and their kits.

Looking for them to put together a Summit-friendly package.

The Summit is strange animal.
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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build - note on Rocky Road kits on Summits

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Just a friendly note to people like me who do not have Jeff's build capabilities:

1. Rocky Road Outfitters are great folks with great quality, but without knowing what you are doing and able to make serious mods on the fly, the Summit park sensors and ACC will be inoperable with their winch mount kit, bumper bar and brush bar kit.

2. I took mine to a "reputable" body shop to have done (I don't have the knowledge or the tools) and now I am left with four gaping holes in my bumper because they could not figure out how to install the kits without nuking my ACC and park sensors. I had to have the entire winch mount kit and brush bar/bumper bar kits removed because I had to choose between my technology package and their kits.

Looking for them to put together a Summit-friendly package.

The Summit is strange animal.

Personally, I am not a big fan of Rocky Road Outfitters. I only purchased my winch mount kit from them because they're the only company at this time making the kit. Chief Products is coming out with a hidden winch mount for the wk2's, but from what i've read it's on the back burner since he is working on a few other items.

Now about the ACC not working after the winch install, I had the same issue as everyone else. The Rocky Road winch kit seemed a little incomplete to me. I noticed a few pieces missing and the documentation is mainly for the older wk2's. My guess is they didn't bother redesigning their winch mount for the newer models. I did manage to get my ACC to work without any mounts. I don't like the way it's setup, but it works. I just used zip ties to hold the ACC camera to the lower bumper guard. It's not the best way, but it has been working flawlessly for months now. In the near future I plan on purchasing the wk2 lower front guard from Chief Products and seeing if i can mount it directly to that instead.
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Chief Products is coming out with a hidden winch mount for the wk2's, but from what i've read it's on the back burner since he is working on a few other items.

Now about the ACC not working after the winch install, I had the same .

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Re: Jeff's "Black Widow" Build - note on Rocky Road kits on Summits

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Just a friendly note to people like me who do not have Jeff's build capabilities:

1. Rocky Road Outfitters are great folks with great quality, but without knowing what you are doing and able to make serious mods on the fly, the Summit park sensors and ACC will be inoperable with their winch mount kit, bumper bar and brush bar kit.

2. I took mine to a "reputable" body shop to have done (I don't have the knowledge or the tools) and now I am left with four gaping holes in my bumper because they could not figure out how to install the kits without nuking my ACC and park sensors. I had to have the entire winch mount kit and brush bar/bumper bar kits removed because I had to choose between my technology package and their kits.

Looking for them to put together a Summit-friendly package.

The Summit is strange animal.
Did you try calling Rocky Road? I agree with you that some of their designs aren't the greatest (which is why I swapped out the rock rails for Mopar's) but on my winch mount there were holes that I was able to mount the existing housing for the ACC sensor directly to. I do get some false BRAKE flashes when going under signs or bridges but very rarely and every once in a while my ACC sensor will shutoff for a minute or two and then come right back on, so when that happens I have to drive without cruise control for a minute or two. As far as parking sensors...I have never had even one problem with them. They work flawlessly and never give off false readings or anything. With all that said, if Chief is coming out with something, you can bet it will be way better than anything that Rocky Road has come out with and I would buy it over the Rocky Road stuff all day long. But if they just announced it, it may take a while and it will be way more expensive than RRO's stuff (for good reason, way better quality and it's coming from Australia).

I agree though, if they couldn't get it to work, I would rather have my tech then have the RRO stuff on the front. Sorry it hasn't worked out for you.
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Did you try calling Rocky Road? I agree with you that some of their designs aren't the greatest (which is why I swapped out the rock rails for Mopar's) but on my winch mount there were holes that I was able to mount the existing housing for the ACC sensor directly to. I do get some false BRAKE flashes when going under signs or bridges but very rarely and every once in a while my ACC sensor will shutoff for a minute or two and then come right back on, so when that happens I have to drive without cruise control for a minute or two. As far as parking sensors...I have never had even one problem with them. They work flawlessly and never give off false readings or anything. With all that said, if Chief is coming out with something, you can bet it will be way better than anything that Rocky Road has come out with and I would buy it over the Rocky Road stuff all day long. But if they just announced it, it may take a while and it will be way more expensive than RRO's stuff (for good reason, way better quality and it's coming from Australia).

I agree though, if they couldn't get it to work, I would rather have my tech then have the RRO stuff on the front. Sorry it hasn't worked out for you.
I tried getting the front runner and posed the ACC issue to them. According to the guy I talked to, they are redesigning the front pre runner for the wk2 to have an opening for the ACC so it can be left on and can still have the plate on. Month or two out.
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