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that does make a positive difference! looks great, i'm also curious of the DIY were there any surprizes in installation.. looks like the only caveat would be shortening the bolt lengths so they don't contact the set above.
Thanks! After two days of driving, no noticable change in drive quality.

I didn't have the tools or space needed to try a DIY. The shop had quite a bit of trouble doing the install, per them the holes for several of the bolts were misaligned by a couple of mm and needed a bit of machining to fix... they also had never seen a kit like that and the owner of the shop drives a 2002 GC so it took them an entire day and the start of a next. Thankfully they only charged me for the two hours of labor quoted and alignment.
I would suppose it totally depends on level of experience. I know a few people on here have said they did it at home with the help of another saavy person and the proper equipment while other noobs like myself would have broken something for sure.
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Thanks! After two days of driving, no noticable change in drive quality.

I didn't have the tools or space needed to try a DIY. The shop had quite a bit of trouble doing the install, per them the holes for several of the bolts were misaligned by a couple of mm and needed a bit of machining to fix... they also had never seen a kit like that and the owner of the shop drives a 2002 GC so it took them an entire day and the start of a next. Thankfully they only charged me for the two hours of labor quoted and alignment.
I would suppose it totally depends on level of experience. I know a few people on here have said they did it at home with the help of another saavy person and the proper equipment while other noobs like myself would have broken something for sure.
I sure hope they are blowing smoke up their your a$$. Unless they had only 1 man working on it they should have no excuse for taking that long. If two non mechanics can do it in about 8 hours with jack stands they shouldn't have such a hard time with a lift and power tools. Plus I'm very surprised they didn't ask for a couple more hours worth of labor if that was the case. I don't doubt the whole were off though. Who knows though, maybe i'm wrong.

I'm thinking it will be a good idea to bring the right up in from this site when I go to get my 2.5" kit installed.
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

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I sure hope they are blowing smoke up their your a$$. Unless they had only 1 man working on it they should have no excuse for taking that long. If two non mechanics can do it in about 8 hours with jack stands they shouldn't have such a hard time with a lift and power tools. Plus I'm very surprised they didn't ask for a couple more hours worth of labor if that was the case. I don't doubt the whole were off though. Who knows though, maybe i'm wrong.

I'm thinking it will be a good idea to bring the right up in from this site when I go to get my 2.5" kit installed.
Haha, yea it was a bit strange. I think they were stumped for almost a whole day before figuring out that the holes were misaligned. I called them every 4 hours or so and they would say, "It's still up on the jacks and we are working on it".
I also doubt they dedicated personnel to it the whole day... likely got frustrated and gave up when I told them I was going out of town and couldn't pick it up until Monday (dropped off on Saturday AM) as the shop was really busy that morning. They probably shelved it Saturday after it was taking too much time, worked on customers needing to pick up cars that day, and finished it Monday morning before I came in.
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

Wow, sounds to me like you got real lucky? Or maybe not, so far as the install and fit for the kit the hardest time was the front left (driver side) due to the shorter axle assembly. I would recheck the work as to why they had to enlarge bolt holes to make it fit? That is definetly not cool, my kit fit perfect!
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

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Just curious, has anyone tried installing this themselves?
Yes, it takes about 2 hours if you dont have a helper. Its pretty easy, and self explanitory if you have mechanical knowledge. Thanks to Mac Daddy for giving me some useful info about spacing the front another 1/4".
I used the leveling kit up front (not the lift kit) and was fabricating my rear, when I ran out of acetylene. I had a tire appt in 2 hrs so i came up with a quick/temporary fix, but these would work for long term use too (i just want more lift in the rear so im going to finish making my kit). I used TJ 3/4" coil spring spacers in the rear. The stock WK2 lower control arm spring perch fits perfectly into the spacer and the spacer fits perfectly into the LCA spring perch hole. This gave me enough lift front and rear to fit 255/80/17 BFG KM2's (33.06x10.08x17) with a unique 297 steel wheel with a 4.5" of backspace. Minor fender trimming was required to fit these (cut and fold the pinch welds and felt between the tire and the doors. The 265/70/17 (32.01x11.24x17) fit fine though without trimming. pics are attached of the rear spacers, pinch weld mod, and jeep after lift and tires.
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

Nate, that looks f@ckin' great, And I'm glad my info helped you. Send some more pics out....I'm thinking my next tires are gonna be a 285X70-17 on mine....er my wife's ha!
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

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Yes, it takes about 2 hours if you dont have a helper. Its pretty easy, and self explanitory if you have mechanical knowledge. Thanks to Mac Daddy for giving me some useful info about spacing the front another 1/4".
I used the leveling kit up front (not the lift kit) and was fabricating my rear, when I ran out of acetylene. I had a tire appt in 2 hrs so i came up with a quick/temporary fix, but these would work for long term use too (i just want more lift in the rear so im going to finish making my kit). I used TJ 3/4" coil spring spacers in the rear. The stock WK2 lower control arm spring perch fits perfectly into the spacer and the spacer fits perfectly into the LCA spring perch hole. This gave me enough lift front and rear to fit 255/80/17 BFG KM2's (33.06x10.08x17) with a unique 297 steel wheel with a 4.5" of backspace. Minor fender trimming was required to fit these (cut and fold the pinch welds and felt between the tire and the doors. The 265/70/17 (32.01x11.24x17) fit fine though without trimming. pics are attached of the rear spacers, pinch weld mod, and jeep after lift and tires.

Who's 3/4" coil spring spacers did you use?
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

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Nate, that looks f@ckin' great, And I'm glad my info helped you. Send some more pics out....I'm thinking my next tires are gonna be a 285X70-17 on mine....er my wife's ha!

Thanks!!! this is how it should look from the factory! here are some more pics for anyone wondering about clearances and fender-well room.




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Who's 3/4" coil spring spacers did you use?
Daystar ($40 from 4wheel parts) so overall the total lift cost me $129 for the front RRO level kit and $40 for the rear spacer.
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

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Yes, it takes about 2 hours if you dont have a helper. Its pretty easy, and self explanitory if you have mechanical knowledge. Thanks to Mac Daddy for giving me some useful info about spacing the front another 1/4".
I used the leveling kit up front (not the lift kit) and was fabricating my rear, when I ran out of acetylene. I had a tire appt in 2 hrs so i came up with a quick/temporary fix, but these would work for long term use too (i just want more lift in the rear so im going to finish making my kit). I used TJ 3/4" coil spring spacers in the rear. The stock WK2 lower control arm spring perch fits perfectly into the spacer and the spacer fits perfectly into the LCA spring perch hole. This gave me enough lift front and rear to fit 255/80/17 BFG KM2's (33.06x10.08x17) with a unique 297 steel wheel with a 4.5" of backspace. Minor fender trimming was required to fit these (cut and fold the pinch welds and felt between the tire and the doors. The 265/70/17 (32.01x11.24x17) fit fine though without trimming. pics are
attached of the rear spacers, pinch weld mod, and jeep after lift and tires.

The Jeep looks great!

I have test fit 305/50/20 on my Jeep, front is perfect with the RRO 1.75" althought I need .75" in the rear ...and this looks like my answer!!! Can you confirm the rear Daystar spacers are for a TJ, not a JK??
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

Yes it should be a 97-06 rear TJ coil spacer, they sit on top of the TJ coils to provide the lift. Don't confuse it with placing it on the bottom rear of the spring perch to achieve the lift on your GC. "Daystar" "Rough Country" and "OLD Man EMU" all make the TJ coil spacers.
I cut the the rear of my RRO lift kit to 3/4" and used it as I liked the fact that it's secured with a bolt through spacer to keep it in place in the LCA. I don't know what kind of wheeling you do, if any, but I think the TJ spacer may just be a quick fix to acheive the lift. The RRO Lift Kit addresses this by making sure the spring is maintained in it's proper position by placing a "keyway" on the spacer locking the spring into place.
Good luck and if you need anymore help just ask.
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And again Nate, I'm really digging the Jeep that thing came out great!!
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Re: New RRO leveling kit, Done the right way!!!

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The Jeep looks great!

I have test fit 305/50/20 on my Jeep, front is perfect with the RRO 1.75" althought I need .75" in the rear ...and this looks like my answer!!! Can you confirm the rear Daystar spacers are for a TJ, not a JK??
correct for a TJ not a jk, but like mac daddy says it does not bolt into place. the stock LCA spring perch fits into the daystar spacer perfectly and clips into it and eveything, and the spacer sits snug in the LCA hole perfectly but this will wear over time. it is not a permanent solution, and has to be used at your own risk. but if you dont do heavy wheeling, it will be fine.


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And again Nate, I'm really digging the Jeep that thing came out great!!
thanks bud, I couldnt have wanted to look any better than it does!
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