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Re: Wj or wk

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With those running boards and that bull bar it most certainly is. Lol!
did you watch the vid. now your just sounding pathetic bro... there is nothing wrong with admitting that jeep improved you WJ it happens or else they wouldn't stay in business. If they kept making the WJ no one would buy it because it sucks on road, is unsafe and with the technology now there are plenty of ifs designs/ 4wd systems that are just as capable as the WJ but with better on road manners hence the WK. You put way too much stock in you SFA... The WK is superior in every way.
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You do realize I have a WK that I wheel right? You also realize that the OP is not looking for a DD. He is essentially looking for a trail rig that he can put a 6 inch long arm kit on. If you go back and read my first post I said to get a WK with a SL if it was a DD.

I was merely making fun of the fact that you don't see many running boards or bull bars on jeeps, unless they are at the mall.
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did you watch the vid. now your just sounding pathetic bro... there is nothing wrong with admitting that jeep improved you WJ it happens or else they wouldn't stay in business. If they kept making the WJ no one would buy it because it sucks on road, is unsafe and with the technology now there are plenty of ifs designs/ 4wd systems that are just as capable as the WJ but with better on road manners hence the WK. You put way too much stock in you SFA... The WK is superior in every way.
i myself being a WK owner will disagree with this statement. just because Jeep improved on a model and came out with a road friendly grand cherokee with IFS instead of SFA, doesnt mean its superior. take an overland WK and an overland WJ, im putting my money on a WJ
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I'd put mine on the wk any day... QD2 more than makes up for any issue ifs causes and then there are all the areas of offroading where the ifs is an advantage over sfa so again as i stated before the wk is superior in every way!!!!!
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Re: Wj or wk

All those areas where IFS is an advantage? You mean a dirt road? There is no advantage to wheeling an IFS over SFA. SFA you can have a better estimate of travel while rock crawling. SFA is also better for wheel travel.. Yes the WK has a larger suspension travel, but unless you have a major amount of money to spend on it there is little to do to make it any better... While with a SFA they are quite easy modify to extend and maximize its articulation. IFS is good if you decide would like to go pre-running, not to hit a trail with any more difficulty then a road side ditch.

IFS is made for a soft ride, not to hit the trail. SFA is made to be tough heavy duty, and reliable off road and under harsh conditions... Which is the exact reason it is still under all HD trucks and the oh so wonderful and off road capable Wrangler.
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All those areas where IFS is an advantage? You mean a dirt road? There is no advantage to wheeling an IFS over SFA. SFA you can have a better estimate of travel while rock crawling. SFA is also better for wheel travel.. Yes the WK has a larger suspension travel, but unless you have a major amount of money to spend on it there is little to do to make it any better... While with a SFA they are quite easy modify to extend and maximize its articulation. IFS is good if you decide would like to go pre-running, not to hit a trail with any more difficulty then a road side ditch.

IFS is made for a soft ride, not to hit the trail. SFA is made to be tough heavy duty, and reliable off road and under harsh conditions... Which is the exact reason it is still under all HD trucks and the oh so wonderful and off road capable Wrangler.
I disagree with you to a degree. As I stated before the WK is very capable off road because of QD2. A Superlifted WK will go anywhere a WJ with equivalent lift will go. The major advantage of the WJ and its SFA is that modification options are endless. The WK starts and stops with the Superlift.
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I disagree with you to a degree. As I stated before the WK is very capable off road because of QD2. A Superlifted WK will go anywhere a WJ with equivalent lift will go. The major advantage of the WJ and its SFA is that modification options are endless. The WK starts and stops with the Superlift.

I can agree that from a stock/factory stand point that a WK could been seen as an equivalent or have a little advantage for off road due to QD2. The point that I was trying to get across is that an IFS is in no way superior to a SFA.. unless that is you have over 25k to put into a custom bulletproof set up which still someone can match with a SFA for say..10k. Dollar for dollar SFA is much more reliable, easier to work on, and more capable. Also like you said Lucas J, the modification options are endless for not only a SFA but for WJ as a whole. The WK platform, from a viewpoint of aftermarket options and drivetrain, was not INTENDED to go much past a few trails and the beach. Not saying it cannot go beyond that, but it just flat out was not intended to.
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I can agree that from a stock/factory stand point that a WK could been seen as an equivalent or have a little advantage for off road due to QD2. The point that I was trying to get across is that an IFS is in no way superior to a SFA.. unless that is you have over 25k to put into a custom bulletproof set up which still someone can match with a SFA for say..10k. Dollar for dollar SFA is much more reliable, easier to work on, and more capable. Also like you said Lucas J, the modification options are endless for not only a SFA but for WJ as a whole. The WK platform, from a viewpoint of aftermarket options and drivetrain, was not INTENDED to go much past a few trails and the beach. Not saying it cannot go beyond that, but it just flat out was not intended to.
I completely agree. However there is one guy in Venezuela that converted his WK to SFA using a WJ front axle. He lost QD2 but it is a really cool set up. That he claimed only cost around $5k to do. Not what I would do but it was cool non the less.

Bottom line is a WK with an SL that is perfect for DD that gets wheeled on weekends and what not. If your looking for a trail rig with a main purpose of off roading with the occasional driving in snow or bad weather the WJ is hands down the better option.
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Re: Wj or wk

SAS'd WK would be sweet to see. I would like to know how well it works/how many problems he ran or is still running into.

5k sounds about right. My girlfriends 2003 Tundra got SAS'd with a dana 60. It cost about 9k, but has a few extra tweaks added then just a regular SAS.
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SAS'd WK would be sweet to see. I would like to know how well it works/how many problems he ran or is still running into.

5k sounds about right. My girlfriends 2003 Tundra got SAS'd with a dana 60. It cost about 9k, but has a few extra tweaks added then just a regular SAS.
Yes a SFA WK sounds great in theory but without being able to keep QD2, what's the point. I would rather buy a cheap WJ or TJ and jack the piss out if it for a couple grand more.
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Yes a SFA WK sounds great in theory but without being able to keep QD2, what's the point. I would rather buy a cheap WJ or TJ and jack the piss out if it for a couple grand more.


Fully agree! Get a TJ (in a perfect world get a TJ Rubi) and be done with any drive-train beefing up BS and just jack it up with some tires and good suspension for 2K and be set for life and kick ass on the trails.
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QD was available in the WJ. From my understanding the difference between QD and QDII is QD is hydraulic and QDII is electronic. While the electronic is faster the hydraulic system is no slouch plus the ability to manually select low range is a bonus.

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