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Hi Lips,

I got a question. I currently have like 5 different power connections to my battery or into the fuse box lug.



battery tender
sub amp
halo1
headlight1
headlight2

when i redo my headlight wiring and add 4 relay harnesses and halo2 wiring I'll have 5 more.



THE QUESTION: How do i clean this mess up at the battery??????
Is there a way to consolidate or relocate all these wires.


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Old 11-10-2010, 09:28 AM
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Hi Lips,

I got a question. I currently have like 5 different power connections to my battery or into the fuse box lug.



battery tender
sub amp
halo1
headlight1
headlight2

when i redo my headlight wiring and add 4 relay harnesses and halo2 wiring I'll have 5 more.



THE QUESTION: How do i clean this mess up at the battery??????
Is there a way to consolidate or relocate all these wires.


THX
ROB
Rob:

I always use these to clean up messes like that:

http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...%20TYPE%20RED/

You can put it out of sight and run wires off of that.

Now, as far as the HID re-wiring, do you remember my HID install write-up? Check here:

My HID Install

Use a fuse distribution block like I did. Link here:

http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...20NO%20GROUND/

Run a 10- or 8-gauge wire to the block and feed all your HID's from there. I linked you to the 6-fuse block, but they make them all the way up to 14-fuse if you want some room for future expansion.

Here's a tip if you mount it where I did - use auto-reset circuit breakers. You can't really reach that spot with the bumper on (at least on an SRT). If you ever blow a fuse, you'll have to remove the whole bumper. Linky:

http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...PE%2015%20AMP/

Let me know if you need help with anything else.
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thanks Jason. circuit breakers it is!

now when i get to all the HIDs I will have 6 RELAYS.

I bought these harnesses http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...12%22%20LEADS/
and the corresponding relays http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...0RELAY%20SPDT/


where am i going to put all the relays....... is there some kind of mount for relays LOLOL

I looked at your set up. looks like they hang down under the bumper or something??




and one more q: this thing http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...%20TYPE%20RED/

how do i use that. run ONE wire from POS BATT to this. then just stack all the smaller power wires on top and bolt it all down?



last: for the fuse block, do i want the one with the ground so i can centralize them too?
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thanks Jason. circuit breakers it is!

now when i get to all the HIDs I will have 6 RELAYS.

I bought these harnesses http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...12%22%20LEADS/
and the corresponding relays http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...0RELAY%20SPDT/


where am i going to put all the relays....... is there some kind of mount for relays LOLOL

I looked at your set up. looks like they hang down under the bumper or something??




and one more q: this thing http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...%20TYPE%20RED/

how do i use that. run ONE wire from POS BATT to this. then just stack all the smaller power wires on top and bolt it all down?



last: for the fuse block, do i want the one with the ground so i can centralize them too?
To mount the relays, you will also need these:

http://order.waytekwire.com/productd...20FOR%20RELAY/

This just provides a tab for you to mount. This tab slides into a slot that is molded into the body of the relay.

My relays don't hang down below the bumper. When you remove the front bumper, there's that large metal bulkhead behind it. My relays are mounted to the bottom of that. They are still well-protected by the bumper when it is in place. If you look closely at the pictures, you can see all of this.


Yes, your description of how that junction block works is right on. Rather than having 10 wires running to your battery positive, you can run one large wire (I may go as large as 1/0-gauge in your application) to the stud, then take all the wires off of the stud. Same principle as what you are doing with the battery, but you can hide it and it will look cleaner. Heck, if you were good, you could probably even put that fancy alternator fuse holder you just bought on there as the top wire.


I was going to mention that they make fuse blocks with a ground buss as well, but it sounds like you already noticed that. Your call on that. If you look at my pictures, you can see that I kinda "centralized" them too, but I didn't use the fuse block. It's just preference. I am a super-OCD neat freak and I thought I could make the whole setup look better by grounding my own wires. If you're less concerned with how it looks, the ground buss blocks *MIGHT* save you some time.
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Thanks again Jason.

Got to get my waytek order going LOL
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OK so there are alot of post an I might have over looked it. I have an 08 GCSRT8 and I have a set of OEM projectors on the way. From what I gather you have to cut and splice wires to replace them with the non hid. I know you lose the auto level but are there or can you make a harness so you can just plug in the HID projectors with out cutting up ur stock harness?
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OK so there are alot of post an I might have over looked it. I have an 08 GCSRT8 and I have a set of OEM projectors on the way. From what I gather you have to cut and splice wires to replace them with the non hid. I know you lose the auto level but are there or can you make a harness so you can just plug in the HID projectors with out cutting up ur stock harness?
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check the how to forum...I have a 2 write ups....
How to Ver2: make 2008 HID WK headlights plug and play on 05-07 WK's
How to-2008 OEM Jeep Grand Cherokee HID headlights on an 05-07
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Ok yeah the that first one is more what i was lookin for. Im holding off right now as I am waiting on a buddy to get back to me about the auto leveling. I have read all these post and ppl say it just can be done, that just make me want to do it more.
Thanks for the info great write up, got one on how to open up and paint them up?
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i have those ...... search on my ID.

but be careful wit the 08+ HIDs, after a point in the production they become near impossible to open. they changed the way they seal them and instead of a butyl that we could heat up they seem to use an epoxy that doesnt melt.......
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ok big shot lipschitz who NOW figures out the euro tail thing








j/k Jason. But I do have a question.

the tail bulbs on the 07+ are wired like a CK socket where the ground only has one of four contacts, park has one, and brake/blink use the other 2. If you look at a tail plug it shows that the MAJOR side. so on these 07+ the major is the Brake/blink on 06- the major is the ground.




so why did they do this on the 07+ and if we reverse the wiring BACK to the same as the ealry ones are we LOSING anjything?



if its all the same, then you should make a harness to handle this with a place for the resistor.

thanks!

a pic of what I am talking about:

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ok big shot lipschitz who NOW figures out the euro tail thing








j/k Jason. But I do have a question.

the tail bulbs on the 07+ are wired like a CK socket where the ground only has one of four contacts, park has one, and brake/blink use the other 2. If you look at a tail plug it shows that the MAJOR side. so on these 07+ the major is the Brake/blink on 06- the major is the ground.




so why did they do this on the 07+ and if we reverse the wiring BACK to the same as the ealry ones are we LOSING anjything?



if its all the same, then you should make a harness to handle this with a place for the resistor.

thanks!

a pic of what I am talking about:

Rob, thanks for laying all the information out there for me to look at.

In short, NO, there is no advantage to using a CK socket over a conventional socket or vice versa. If you look closely at the sockets, you can see that a conventional bulb works for either because its incandescent filament can handle current in either direction and because it has a separate filament for the major and minor circuits.

An LED bulb, however, can NOT handle current in either direction (except for those fancy autolumination bulbs that are polarity-insensitive). Furthermore, an LED bulb does NOT have separate filaments. Basically, there are resistors inside the bulb that reduce the voltage for the running light circuit.

It's hard to visualize, but because of this differing circuit structure, if you put the bulb in a certain way, it won't light (as is typical with most LED bulbs). When that happens, what is that person's natural reaction? Reverse the bulb in the socket. Well now, you've created a direct path to ground for one of the circuits in the bulb, which is why you start popping fuses.

If I had to guess why Jeep did this in '07, I would guess it probably boils down to someone getting low bid during the parts procurement phase. This "low-bid" socket just happened to be CK. Jeep had no problems with this because a conventional bulb doesn't care and Jeep doesn't have to give any consideration to aftermarket parts support.

ANYWAYS...

What kind of harness do you have in mind? Leaving a spot to integrate a load resistor is easy enough, but I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you're looking for. Would you want the stock CK socket left in place and my harness would basically "adapt" it the conventional socket? Or are you looking for a rewire for the existing socket?

On my '98, I was actually able to take the sockets apart and move the pins in the socket around. I do not know if this would be possible with these sockets...
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