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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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Did you guys with 245 revo's see any performance loss on the street over the stock ones with the bigger tread and slightly bigger tire?
I went from 245/65/17 Wrangler SRA's to 245/70/17 Revo's and I notice a slight performance loss mostly at lower RPM's in first gear. The SRA's were the original tires and they were pretty bald so the difference in diameter is quite a bit.

Tire Rack lists the 245/70 Revo as 36Lbs and the 245/65 SRA as 32Lbs.

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I guess I could always go for the stock 245 wrangler's sra all terrains that came stock on the limited offroad package models, they looked pretty good on my brothers and seemed to work well on the street from the times I drove it but the reviews on tirerack suck for them and they are 161 a pop.
My opinion on the SRA's is they suck on wet pavement and in the snow and are not worth what they cost. There are much better tires out there in that price range.
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Old 11-29-2009, 05:29 AM
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

Thanks for the advice. Im also looking at Fortera's and Destinations now both look tempting, trying to find the right mix between winter snow handleing and summer street and track runs is tough.
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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don't worry about the difference in weight from a new set of tires its like the difference in overall weight from having a half tank vs a 3/4 full tank

YOU ARE ENTIRELY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adding more weight to the wheels instead of the cabin area is much different... ALL THE TIME...

Go do some reading before you spout off with nonsense.
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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YOU ARE ENTIRELY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adding more weight to the wheels instead of the cabin area is much different... ALL THE TIME...

Go do some reading before you spout off with nonsense.
I must entirely agree with that, why do we all run alloy wheels?

Because they are lighter than steel, and the improvements in ride/performance/etc are manyfold
Sprung wieght is the enemy
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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I must entirely agree with that, why do we all run alloy wheels?

Because they are lighter than steel, and the improvements in ride/performance/etc are manyfold
Sprung wieght is the enemy
I know thats the case in bicycle racing, some of the wheels are insanly light especially the climbing models but $2k+ for bicycle wheels they should be. Less centripical force or whatever the physics is makes a huge difference when peddleing. Do they make carbon wheels for cars? Now a lot of companies are using Magnesium too I hear its ever lighter.
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

The Revo's are great. This is my 4th set. They stick like glue. Don't ya notice that there's a lot of those out there that have buddy's that didn't like this or that. Rarely those that have actually had them.
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

There is an issue with replacement tyres that seems only to worry those in the UK

All tires are speed and load rated, and the Jeep is 107 H with the H being the speed rating of 130 MPH

Given that the national speed limit is 70 MPH and enforced with average speed camara's, unmarked vans with speed camara's and various other devices that would appear ok, BUT........

The UK insurance companies will not accept the fitting of tyres with a lower speed rating that htat fitted as standard by vehicle makers

That means that to stay insured,H rated tyres are a minimum and that counts out Revo 2's General Grabber AT2's and loads of others

I am not a lover of the standard Goodyear Wrangler HP AW tyres that Jeep fit as standard, but my choices of replacement are few

I have had the General Grabber UHP's fitted to my last Grand Cherokee and an Volvo XC90 and it looks like I will be going down that road again

I want something that is going to be a true AT tyre that has a heavy road use, but what options do I have

Strange thing is its not illegal to fit lower speed rated tyres, but if involved in an RTA, the insurance company would void any cover due to the lower speed rated tyres

And we are paying over 5.00 UKP for each gallon of fuel
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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There is an issue with replacement tyres that seems only to worry those in the UK

All tires are speed and load rated, and the Jeep is 107 H with the H being the speed rating of 130 MPH

Given that the national speed limit is 70 MPH and enforced with average speed camara's, unmarked vans with speed camara's and various other devices that would appear ok, BUT........

The UK insurance companies will not accept the fitting of tyres with a lower speed rating that htat fitted as standard by vehicle makers

That means that to stay insured,H rated tyres are a minimum and that counts out Revo 2's General Grabber AT2's and loads of others

I am not a lover of the standard Goodyear Wrangler HP AW tyres that Jeep fit as standard, but my choices of replacement are few

I have had the General Grabber UHP's fitted to my last Grand Cherokee and an Volvo XC90 and it looks like I will be going down that road again

I want something that is going to be a true AT tyre that has a heavy road use, but what options do I have

Strange thing is its not illegal to fit lower speed rated tyres, but if involved in an RTA, the insurance company would void any cover due to the lower speed rated tyres

And we are paying over 5.00 UKP for each gallon of fuel
Sounds like you need to move to the USA, I complain now and its at 2.60 a gallon. A few months ago I was paying 1.45 a gallon. I want a tire that I can use all year long, that will handle the occasional snow and that will be ok to run on the 1/4 mile tracks. The duelers seem like it might hurt 1/4 mile times but they do look cool and im sure would be good in the snow but im trying to take advantage of the power mod's im adding.
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

Hmmmm

The USA is a tempting prospect, perhaps I can get a transfer to our US office (Navman Wireless)

My "power mod" arrived this morning, 35BHP in the form of a chip for my CRD 3.0L diesel

Cant wait to get it fitted

With repsect snow, if I am honest, there is not realy that much in the south of the UK, maybe one day with an inch or 2

Its just the visual aspect I like, although the General Grabber UHP's I had on the last WK do look a treat in 255/60 R17H and there is only about 1.5% difference in circumference so they don't make the speedo any more innaccurate
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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Hmmmm

The USA is a tempting prospect, perhaps I can get a transfer to our US office (Navman Wireless)

My "power mod" arrived this morning, 35BHP in the form of a chip for my CRD 3.0L diesel

Cant wait to get it fitted

With repsect snow, if I am honest, there is not realy that much in the south of the UK, maybe one day with an inch or 2

Its just the visual aspect I like, although the General Grabber UHP's I had on the last WK do look a treat in 255/60 R17H and there is only about 1.5% difference in circumference so they don't make the speedo any more innaccurate
Yeah its not too bad here, cheap(er) gas, wide open roads that you can drive for days on, and better weather. My grandparents decided to make the move here from Ireland and Scotland and im glad they did. Im running 235's right now so I think 245's would be a good size for what I plan on using them for. Eventually I want a set of SRT wheels so the stock will be my winter wheels. What chip did you get? I want to get a superchip soon but I just bought an intake and muffler so im broke for awhile.
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

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Yeah its not too bad here, cheap(er) gas, wide open roads that you can drive for days on, and better weather. My grandparents decided to make the move here from Ireland and Scotland and im glad they did. Im running 235's right now so I think 245's would be a good size for what I plan on using them for. Eventually I want a set of SRT wheels so the stock will be my winter wheels. What chip did you get? I want to get a superchip soon but I just bought an intake and muffler so im broke for awhile.
Nothing sold in the UK comes on 235's, all are supplied with either 17" (Ltd) or 18" (Overland) with 245's on

The chip is from a UK supplier http://dieseltuning.uk.com/chrysler.html that I have used before

What is best is the mountian of torque, rivals if not betters some of the gas (petrol) V8 motors
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Re: Anyone riding Dueler Revo's?

The 235s came on most Laredos and base line WKs the 245s came on the Laredos and Limited with any of the upgrade packages. The 235s look WAY too Small IMHO. I really like the look/size of the stock 245/65/17.
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