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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

My first car was a Cadillac Catera with 50k and it was constantly being repaired, I didn't have to pay for it, but I was always without a vehicle. High school graduation was a few year old Cadillac STS that was also a ton of problems and some of the repairs I paid for myself, I traded that in on a Honda Accord Coupe and it was problem free until the transmission failed at 110k($1600) and Timinig belt/Water pump change at 120k ($800) in 5 years. I bought the Jeep with 67k hoping it would fall somewhere in between, but hopefully more towards the Honda.

I don't expect it to be as reliable as my older brothers old Camry(312k now) or my stepdads Lexus SC400(430k), but I hope to get 120-130k out of it while I'm in college. The biggest part of not just buying something new is that I like having money left over to spend on upgrades and other fun.
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:21 PM
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

back when I had my XJ, I was starting to ask myself those questions. In that case I didn't have any real repairs, but lots of maintenance stuff - brakes, tranny flush/fluid, tires, etc. - but it all seems to be needed at the same time. Talking to a friend, he made a good point - putting $1000 into a the car sucks, but if you buy something new $1000 is going to be 3 or 4 months' payments. If you like the vehicle & it's been generally good, keep it - you know what you have. Unless you buy brand new & have warranty, you never know what problems you're inheriting.

I ended up putting another 30,000 miles on my XJ with NO problems. I'd probably still have it had I not crashed it..
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:52 AM
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

Well I currently just hit 166k ... So far so good, just routine maintenance. My mechanic says that it's one of the cleanest Jeeps he's worked on. I'm thinking of trading it when I hit 180k
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:48 PM
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

I have 110k on my wk. I've had 4 xjs before that. 87 bought with 90k went to 247k. 94 bought with 156 sold with 180, 95 bought with 135k sold @ 150k and a 98 bought with 100k sold at 150k now my wk bought with 60k and plan to go to 247k!
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

For what it.s worth, I'm not done with my 06 Overland yet.....
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:21 PM
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

Holy sh** batman!!! And I was considering getting rid of my Laredo at 200k lol.... Tell me ur secret to get to 265k blong!?
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

the best way I've found to save money is rockauto.com and my own labor/elbow grease. the only thing i cannot do myself, is transmission/rearend issues. everything else i think is pretty simple.
Worst case, in example: ball joints , when you don't have the special tools..... you can go to autozone or advanced auto and borrow them to do the job. they just charge you for the tools and when you bring it back, they refund you the entire amount. so you get to use it for FREE!!!! well worth it in the end!!!!

90k is nothing! Keep her going til at LEAST 150k

edit: ALL HAIL BLONG!!!!!!!!! amazing!!! I would love to get that many miles out of my 06 - currently at 79k - as soon as I think about wanting a new ride, i just detail it and i fall in love again
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

I have over 110K now, I plan to surpass my first jeep 1987 XJ Pioneer with 247K so I've got a long way to go before I even think of selling my jeep because of maintenance or mileage. This one is gonna go till she dies!
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

Since i bought my jeep i have follwed the book 100% and had no issues with it what so ever and im just hitting 123k. Money i have spent on brakes and fluids in my eyes are well worth it considering the fact that no mayjor issues have happened. But a local dealership was willing to pay 9k for my jeep as it sits. This was before I lifted it and do many other things to it
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:26 PM
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

Heres my rant on vehicle maintenance and how oil changes are truly the key in engine longevity. As far as other maintenance outside of the engine, well things like accessories/brakes/suspension are very different are vary a lot more as you cannot maintain or predict conditions they will see. They simply have a manufacturers rated lifetime and once its up, its up and time for a change. So those things, I dont consider outside of the ordinary or relative to whether a vehicle should be kept or sod seeing as they can be easily replaced and also are issues on ALL vehicles everywhere so they aren't unique to any year/make/model. Anyway this is somewhat long winded but, if you need some reading well, you'll see the point

So, there is a lot of myth to that whole mileage equating/relating to engine/vehicle failure. Obviously certains makes and models have some history behind their longevity and get a bad rap, but a lot of that has to do with the types of people who drive them and how they maintain the vehicle. Similar to the saying that "there are no bad dogs, just bad owners" I like to think of vehicles in the same light. Sure you get a few bad apples in every bunch like with anything in life, but all cars since the creation of OBDII and newer engine and materials technologies have the potential to get 2-3 and onwards into the 400k mile range without needing a rebuild. So in essence, as long as you can repair/maintain your vehicle for less than the total cost of a replacement, you should repair it. (unless of course you want something different.)

It just happens that of the cars that tend to last long (think Japanese) many of their owners take good care of and dont beat on their rides, its THAT SIMPLE. Jeeps, Mercedes, Cadillacs, even Jaguars, yes jaguars can last a long lifetime with proper care. Oil changes every 3k or 3 months is CRUCIAL (unless synthetic) I dont care what anyone says, the longer you wait and the more you continue to do it past the 3k mark, the more all the internals will wear/take abuse. Oil is the LIFE-BLOOD of the engine and like the human body, abusing it (by not changing properly) will shorten its lifespan, its science. Think of not changing the oil like doing hard drugs and drinking heavily all the time on your body, our engines when in use are going through this kind of abuse thusly showing the need for constant transfusions. All modern engines are designed to last well into the 200k+ mile range and pending what kind of miles it has seen (highway/city) it isn't farfetched to think one could go well over 300k into 4-500k range until it may need a rebuild IF it has seen proper maintenance for its ENTIRE life. If you buy used, its hard to tell unless you have dealer receipts to show etc or some kind of accurate history of maintenance (car-fax doesn't usually have that)

And just for little more perspective to help people understand about engine longevity, the MAJORITY of (anything more than 50%) engine catastrophic failure is the result of bearing, valve guide or ring wear/failures which often result from a lack of and/or dirty/old oil (aka infrequent changes/wrong type used, under-filled etc) If you take good care of your oil, the pump will last, the engine will maintain proper pressure, the moving parts and their seals will all get their needed oil and move smoothly and not wear at a faster than normal rate (ie sub 200k miles) which will ensure the oil stays where it should and does what it should do which is to cool, lubricate and keep your engine very happy.

So people take care of your ride and it will take care of you. I can say I've never truly seen a case of a well loved vehicle giving more problems than its worth, but like I said there are always exceptions. Im just about to tick 70k miles on a 2005 but have changed my oil with regular old Napa oil every 3k miles or LESS. I also have replaced the PCV valve @ 60k, a few electrical sensors, the coolant, trans fluid, diff fluids and done some air filter cleaning. May look in to PS pump fluid soon, but from here its just a matter of staying on top of the oil and other little things to keep her going. Biggest issue I've had was the left bank 02 sensors needing swapping which was an easy job. I dont predict any big issue but hey anything can happen at anytime. I hope and plan on seeing 200k miles with her but at this rate it'll be 2020 before that happens haha
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:34 PM
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^^^^^ Well said sir.
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Re: Approaching 90K...when to throw in the towel?

I kept my ZJ to 180K and my WJ to 150K, and both were well out of warranty for most of those miles. The ZJ I regret getting rid of, wish I still had it to build on, the WJ was a a bit of a POS, never liked the look, and it had too many of the WJ gremlins acting up, so I was glad to dump it. The WK will be driven until it dies, gets revived a couple times, and finally loses it's soul. I may even bring it back after that, who knows. HOWEVER, I have the Lifetime MaxCare warranty, so I don't worry about any issues. I currently have about 105K, 2 minor probs to date (both covered under warranty).

Get the maintenance up to date and keep it there, and you should get alot more miles out of it before you have to walk away.
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