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Are our Jeeps crossovers?

  • It's a crossover

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Are our jeeps crossovers?

10K views 94 replies 29 participants last post by  Archer9 
#1 ·
Today someone referred to my wk as a crossover, and I was sort of offended. I have always thought it to be a truck, or an suv at the least. Isn't a cross over something between a van and an suv like the bmw x6? What do you guys think?
 
#2 ·
a crossover is a small suv on a car/sedan frame. What car shares the same frame as a grand cherokee?

My wife's patriot is a crossover. Shares it's frame with a mitsubishi lancer and dodge caliber.
 
#5 ·
My understanding is that crossovers also have "sedan-based" platforms. So, JGC is not BUT the new MY14 Jeep Cherokee IS a crossover. And I agree with the transfercase and low gears.
 
#6 ·
To some, once you take it off a frame and switch to unibody it is no longer a truck. I see plenty of references to Jeeps as cars. After all, it has wussy, computer controlled 4 wheel drive. :)

I just call it a Jeep. I don't understand being offended by what somebody calls my vehicle. :confused:


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#7 · (Edited)
The internet seems to define a crossover as a vehicle that sits like a truck but has a unibody frame. Crossover is such a tacky term, it always reminds me of ugly vehicles like the x6 and the new Cherokee.
 
#8 ·
the Grand Cherokee has ALWAYS been built on a unibody frame....did anyone consider the zj, wj as a crossover. Crossover is a new term for the chevys, fords and gay ass Korean cars......
 
#11 ·
LOL....I don't get the whole flipper glass thing. I had an 06 and 13 with the flipper and an 11 and 14 without. never missed it. Kinda 80's imho...especially with the power liftgate that I just need to hit a button.....LOL
 
#12 ·
For one thing, lumber that is too long to go inside now has to go on the roof. With the flipper glass it could go in on an angle and wouldn't even have to be tied down. The "U" in utility.

Same thing out on the beach. Without any special rod racks, you can stick a long fishing rod in through the flipper when you want to run down the beach a bit. The "S" in sport.

The Jeep does still fulfil the requirements of "V" as it is a vehicle. :D


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#15 ·
For one thing, lumber that is too long to go inside now has to go on the roof. With the flipper glass it could go in on an angle and wouldn't even have to be tied down. The "U" in utility.

Same thing out on the beach. Without any special rod racks, you can stick a long fishing rod in through the flipper when you want to run down the beach a bit. The "S" in sport.

The Jeep does still fulfil the requirements of "V" as it is a vehicle. :D

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Thats why they make trucks.....
Theres more to utility than hauling lumber.....lol
Stick the rods out the rear side window....
 
#14 ·
The 11 was a durango that I won from toyo tires. The other 2 are srt's. I traded the 13 for the 14 for the new tranny etc.
 
#28 ·
It is a crossover by definition. It has a unibody structure instead of a body-on-frame. That is all that "crossover" means.

From Wiki:

A crossover (or CUV: crossover utility vehicle) is a vehicle built on a car platform and combining, in highly variable degrees, features of a sport utility vehicle (SUV) with features from a passenger vehicle, especially those of a station wagon or hatchback.
Using the unibody construction typical of passenger vehicles instead of the body-on-frame platform used in light trucks and the original SUVs, the crossover combines SUV design features such as tall interior packaging, high H-point seating, high center of gravity, high ground-clearance or all-wheel-drive capability — with design features from an automobile such as a passenger vehicle's platform, independent rear suspension, car-like handling and superior fuel economy.
 
#29 · (Edited)
It is a crossover by definition. It has a unibody structure instead of a body-on-frame. That is all that "crossover" means.

From Wiki:

A crossover (or CUV: crossover utility vehicle) is a vehicle built on a car platform and combining, in highly variable degrees, features of a sport utility vehicle (SUV) with features from a passenger vehicle, especially those of a station wagon or hatchback.
Using the unibody construction typical of passenger vehicles instead of the body-on-frame platform used in light trucks and the original SUVs, the crossover combines SUV design features such as tall interior packaging, high H-point seating, high center of gravity, high ground-clearance or all-wheel-drive capability — with design features from an automobile such as a passenger vehicle's platform, independent rear suspension, car-like handling and superior fuel economy.
So which car platform is the Grand Cherokee based off of? Has to be the Viper

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#30 ·
The JGC was and is the first true crossover, the rest are posers. But if you're going to call all these other vehicles crossovers, I'm calling my Jeep a truck. In reality, there's nothing quite like it. I'm not saying this to be pretentious or anything, but it is a pretty unique vehicle. If you really want to pigeonhole it, you should call it what it is, a Jeep. :D
 
#38 · (Edited)
My personal definition (not what Wiki thinks) of a crossover is taking what was considered a station wagon or sedan in the 90's and putting in AWD. It doesn't have off road capability like 4low and clearance in SUV. In the 90's station wagon was seen as a not so cool family utilized vehicle. To make it more cool they started calling it a crossover and pushing it as off road capable which is a joke. I've run across several of them trying to go on trails in Colorado and get into more then they can handle.

The Grand Cherokee from the beginning was wanting to combine SUV and CUV by going unibody. Combines car like ride with off road capability. Since then every new model has been going more CUV with less off road. Factors have been regulations to lower them and only 2 percent actually off road. Jeep figures that small group will eventually go Wrangler. What they didn't expect is old SUV market is moving to wrangler in a larger wave because those people don't want CUV. They want off road capability even if they don't off road. One reason would be for getting around in deep snow during winter.
 
#39 ·
Yep, there is no denying that the GC has changed and now combines more comforts of the car such as a unibody construction and independent suspension. The removal of the solid axle is when many think it became a CUV. By definition, the JGC is a crossover but not in the way that most think.

The JGC retained much of its off-road abilities which most CUVs don't have which is why many people refuse to see it as a CUV.
 
#40 ·
Yep, there is no denying that the GC has changed and now combines more comforts of the car such as a unibody construction and independent suspension. The removal of the solid axle is when many think it became a CUV. By definition, the JGC is a crossover but not in the way that most think.

The JGC retained much of its off-road abilities which most CUVs don't have which is why many people refuse to see it as a CUV.
They were always Unibody.... My camaro must be a crossover also.. Or is it a truck? It has a solid rear axle but its a unibody?? Lol
 
#43 · (Edited)
Well monocoque/unibody seems to be generally interchangeable rightly or wrongly, but the majority of people wouldn't consider a 2.5 tonne off roader as being a 'crossover' in comparison to vehicles marketed as crossovers, no matter how the Jeep is constructed.

So whilst the letter of the law says you're right, the spirit of the law; public perception, is that a Jeep GC isn't a crossover.

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Unibody - Definition
Monocoque (French for "single shell") or unibody
 
#44 ·
Well monocoque/unibody seems to be generally interchangeable rightly or wrongly, but the majority of people wouldn't consider a 2.5 tonne off roader as being a 'crossover' in comparison to vehicles marketed as crossovers, no matter how the Jeep is constructed.

So whilst the letter of the law says you're right, the spirit of the law; public perception, is that a Jeep GC isn't a crossover.

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Unibody - Definition
Monocoque (French for "single shell") or unibody
I agree 100%. I'm not sure why it is so important for people to see the Jeep as something besides a crossover. It is just a definition. The Jeep is still a Jeep and can still do the same things no matter what you call it. :rolleyes:
 
#45 ·
Just to Add: My college professors would balk at the idea that a wiki page is fact, even with some references.

A crossover is a marketing term, that has been adopted, adapted, and changed around to meet the needs of the user. Since it has been used enough, wee are now trying to standardize it.

The only crossover Jeeps KBB has listed are the compass and patriot. I do not believe edmunds lists any of the jeeps as crossovers. Take that for what it's worth.
 
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