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Been on here a while & just realised I never actually introduced myself. Sorry for being rude!

Anyhoo, thought I would post up about my Jeep & hope you all enjoy my handywork. I've got A LOT of parts arriving over the next few weeks & will update when at my computer

I will edit this as I go & apologies if there's any delays as I'm in Europe so way ahead of most of you.

The wagon:
2005 Jeep WK / WH 5.7 Hemi, Startech / Brabus spec. I bought the 2005 specifically as the 2006 is around $350 more per year to tax. This will only be doing around 1000-1500 miles each year so refused to pay the extra

What was already done:
Startech brabus dual exit exhaust
Startech 20" rims
Startech illuminating side runners
Startech front bumper
Startech chrome pack inc door runners, grill, mirrors, tailgate handle etc

Whats been done by me:
Exterior:
Custom Startech rear bumper (as none seem to have these in the UK that I have seen, even though mine had the rest of the kit)
Powder coated wheels in shadow black
Wind deflectors
Rear spoiler (from CarID)
Custom arch extensions / fender flares in SRT style (but much wider)
SRT grill inserts
Hood bug deflector
Private plate
32" Cooper Zeon LTZ's
Fully detailed & painted where needed (only done 34,000 miles so wanted it to look that way)
Plasti-dipped all chrome on exterior
Detachable swan-neck tow bar

Lighting:
Fly-eye style rear light & front fog covers
Vinyl headlight cut to look like facelift & cover orange side light (will buy stillen when next in USA as refuse to pay $80 shipping)!
LED reverse lights
DRL activated & moved to fog lights
Aux lights fitted under front plate, connected to fogs
Custom headlights including painted shrouds, led side lights, led high beam, hid dip beam with high beam solonoid

Interior:
Vinyl wrapped all visible wood in 3d carbon
Overland door cards, dash bevels, shifter knob & surround
Gear shifter from late 2006 to gain trim that goes round selector then wrapped in carbon vinyl
Overland wheel wrapped in carbon
Full led interior (& they turn off)!
Carbon vinyl sill guards
Mopar rubber mats
Travall dog guard & trunk mat

Engine / Suspension / Other:
k&n induction
HKS earthing kit (inc throttle ground)
3" electric exhaust cut
Remote start kit using OEM key, guts swapped to newer style flip key
Passive keyless entry (so the car locks & unlocks as I approach / walk away)
2" RC lift/level kit
1.25" hub centric spacers
BRC LPG / gas conversion
Bricked my PCM courtesy of SuperChips & in no rush to deal with them again
Bought an official starscan so I can do my own work :-)

Audio:
Boston speakers changed for Kicker all round
REC sat nav swapped out for JVC dab/dvd/nav unit inc harness adapters
Reverse camera
Pioneer double under seat sub (mounted under shelf, flush with rear seat as have rubber boot liner & dog guard for my Tamaskan)
Screens in headrests
OBD fusion app with wi-fi reader

Bought but to do:
Auto up / down windows all round (have wiring harness, door modules & switches)
Auto folding mirrors with lock / unlock (just need to tap off the PKE module in theory)
Auto headlight kit (already have the parts, just trying to work out the wiring)
Highland roof rack (on its way from USA)
Light bar(s) (awaiting roof rack)
Fit mopar tail light covers (on way from USA)
Fit USDM tail lights (on way from USA)
Fit mopar chrome fuel door (on way from USA)
Startech illuminating inner sill guards (on way from Germany)
Led halo side repeaters with 'trail rated' badges (on way from Canada & China)

Wish list:
Get a spare PCM to see if I can get the tuner to work without bricking another. Will try a Diablo Sport this time
Crazy Jays cam & supporting mods (throttle body, headers, 180 t stat, valve springs etc)

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Old 12-27-2016, 05:48 PM
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Been on here a while & just realised I never actually introduced myself. Sorry for being rude!

Anyhoo, thought I would post up about my Jeep & hope you all enjoy my handywork. I've got A LOT of parts arriving over the next few weeks & will update when at my computer

I will edit this with info in the morning & apologies if there's any delays as I'm in Europe so way ahead of most of you
Welcome to the Garage! what kind of jeep are you building? I cant wait to see what you got planned!
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Thanks. It's a weird cross between a proper off-roader & being 'all show'. Kinda difficult to explain but hopefully you will get the idea when I get the pictures up. It's looks like a drug dealers mudder lol
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Thanks. It's a weird cross between a proper off-roader & being 'all show'. Kinda difficult to explain but hopefully you will get the idea when I get the pictures up. It's looks like a drug dealers mudder lol
Sounds like a interesting combo
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Re: Build thread: 'The Money Pit'

I will try to dig out some pictures of before I started & during when I get back to work after the holidays but heres some that are almost up to date:

Exterior:



Completed headlights:


Interior (complete with PITA to wrap steering wheel):


Ignore the missing trim, i'm trying to sus out push button start
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Today I've cut a set of front mud flaps & made them fit my modified fender flares & side skirts. Also dechromed my light guards in preparation for the new tail lights & finished front parking sensors install. Early start tomorrow as dropping the jeep off to tint the front side windows
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Re: Build thread: 'The Money Pit'

This is borderline perfection on what I'm looking for next.. Is there any way to private message using Tapatalk as I've got some questions about owning one...but would rather not take everyone away from the topic! Many thanks
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Thanks, glad you like it. I don't have tapatalk I'm afraid. I'm a bit backward as literally only just setup eBay & photobucket in the last couple of months. I work in IT so try to avoid technology out of hours Feel free to post any questions though
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Re: Build thread: 'The Money Pit'

WOW! You have done a lot of work...your "drug runners mudder" is possibly the best description I have ever heard! Keep it up and the pics coming...great job!
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Re: Build thread: 'The Money Pit'

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Thanks, glad you like it. I don't have tapatalk I'm afraid. I'm a bit backward as literally only just setup eBay & photobucket in the last couple of months. I work in IT so try to avoid technology out of hours Feel free to post any questions though
No problem! I'll list them below so its easy for everyone to follow if they have similar questions:

1: Have you serviced it yet and if so, what was the costing to it/what was included also?

2. How different is the exhaust note to standard and do you have any comparison videos?

3. Have you noticed any performance changes after the modifications?

4. What are your town/motorway/average mpg figures (I know you don't buy a HEMI expecting economy but it's good to know for day to day knowledge)

5. Addition to the above - How many miles are you getting out of your average tank and what's it costing to fill up every time?

6. Is there anything you've struggled with day to day owning this car?

7. Is there anything you've found considerably easier since owning this car?

8. Is there anything to be aware of or take note of cost/difficulty wise before purchasing?

9. Out of all the mods you've done so far, what would you say it the overall best / what feels the most improved?

10. Is there anything that has surprised you or let you down during ownership?

Many thanks in advance and I look forward to your answers!

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Ha ha thanks, I didn't know how to describe it as they are known as Chelsea tractors over here but doubt the phrase has made it your side of the pond

Wow, that's more of an interview than I was expecting. I will answer them all in the morning as currently drunk so struggling to give a satisfactory response; watch this space ...
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No problem! I'll list them below so its easy for everyone to follow if they have similar questions:

1: Have you serviced it yet and if so, what was the costing to it/what was included also?
Yes, serviced it the week I got it. I got a bit carried away though & paid a local specialist to do it as I was mega busy at the time.
Costs are guestimates as was a while ago:
Full service & the below, labor & fluids (excluding motor oil) only (I sourced all parts) $400
16x plugs $50
amsoil for engine $90
all fluids (supplied by garage)
new calipers all round $120 each
new brembo rotors & pads $500
K&N filter replaced with pod $400
Please remember I am in europe though so these costs include shipping; they will be cheaper in USA


2. How different is the exhaust note to standard and do you have any comparison videos?
The startech / brabus back box is only slightly louder than standard, it just looks better. It is certainly quieter than the k&N pod. With the exhaust cut open though, it is VERY loud. I will try to get a mate to film a comparison in the new year as I can't drop my windows at the minute due to new tint

3. Have you noticed any performance changes after the modifications?
Yes, but more for response than overall performance. The throttle responds far better now & I can get all 4x wheels to spin. Its the only non SRT that I have got to do this. The 0-60 is probably not much different to stock but the throttle is far better. I will get it tuned properly at some point but as the SuperChips bricked my ECU, I am being understandably cautions prior to having another go

4. What are your town/motorway/average mpg figures (I know you don't buy a HEMI expecting economy but it's good to know for day to day knowledge)
For me, its a weekend toy for when I also need to take the dog so it gets driven 'properly'. I am currently averaging 6.5 mpg around town. On the one occasion I had to use it for an airport run, I did get 16.something though so not too bad as long as you drive accordingly

5. Addition to the above - How many miles are you getting out of your average tank and what's it costing to fill up every time?
Cost of fuel here is expensive so a tank is around $115. As I intended on using it to tow a horse box (before I split up with the crazy b!tch ex), I did convert it to run on LPG so I now have a second fuel tank & it is half the cost per liter. Range on petrol / gas is normally around 130 miles with my driving style. On LPG (smaller tank), I get around 95 miles

6. Is there anything you've struggled with day to day owning this car?
Our multi-story car parks are tight since i've made it wider. Had to fit front sensors as no idea where the metal barriers are since i've lifted it. No issues with the car day-to-day though other than what I have caused. The range on the tank was quite annoying though and my WCM has now thrown a wobbly more often than what I would say is acceptable. As I now have the tools to reprogram this myself though, i'm not too bothered

7. Is there anything you've found considerably easier since owning this car?
The dog doesn't throw up in this one

8. Is there anything to be aware of or take note of cost/difficulty wise before purchasing?
Depends where you're buying it from & how many miles its got. Only standard wear & tear items as far as I am concerned & if the area is prone for rust then also check fuel tank, front suspension & also power steering & gearbox cooler pipes. The CV joint & boot is a PITA to change & early models can have issues with valve seats which will get expensive. I intend on installing water / meth injection to help prevent this

9. Out of all the mods you've done so far, what would you say it the overall best / what feels the most improved?
Wheel spacers. I fitted the lift as I brought the kit back with me from USA & wanted it to look bigger than all the others local but it handled like a piece of cr@p after doing it. With the spacers, it now handles better than it did without the lift. I will upgrade sway bars etc at some point to help

10. Is there anything that has surprised you or let you down during ownership?
WCM. Its gone wrong 3x (each time whilst at the dealership for recalls). They are prone to play up, especially if theres any static on the key. The issue prevents the car from starting & they try to charge for a new module. As I can reprogram myself, I tell them where to go. Luckily, I have remote start so can still get the car home & just ignore the red flashing light until I get round to sorting it

Many thanks in advance and I look forward to your answers!

Josh
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