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I pulled my motor out because it dropped a valve seat. I'm a fourth generation jeep owner, all the way back to my great grandfather, so it runs deep in my blood. Grew up having multiple in the family, so yeah I'm gonna be biased. Yes ive been told not to bring my jeep for service to four local dealerships. One has a picture of my jeep on a bulletin board with don't work on this written on it. Just because it's a dealership doesn't mean they know how to work on cars, they just know how to go by whatever the book tells them, and whenever a car is different they get stuck. If your looking for just transport then yeah your cx will be fine much like a cr-v, rav-4, or Santa Fe. But it is a smaller suv class then the GC, closer to the patriot or ugly as sin Cherokee. Owning a jeep is kind of, at least used to be, a lifestyle choice. Working on it is part of the fun.




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Ah, gotcha. See, I wanted transportation I could depend on without much further investment beyond textbook maintenance. I equate owning a jeep to playing Sim city with disasters set to "high". Some enjoy the challenge. I did not.

As to size, the cx5 is smaller and that may not work for some, but it's fine for me. Same for offroad. I mainly want it for snow and gravel roads. Not mud bogs or stump jumping.

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BTW that n23 recall fix is absolute BS. It's caused by the possibility of oil leaking onto some wiring connectors and causing a short making it go into neutral. For this they proposed a software fix? It's not a software problem. I said screw that and put some shielding on the wiring where oil may leak. That's what they should have done, but they tried to cut corners on parts. Bonehead move.


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Chrysler official position is that it's caused by heat cracking the circuit board in some component. Chrysler has all sorts of crap qa and qc issues. I understand some like yourself enjoy the challenge of keeping one functional, but even you would have your work cut out restoring a burned out shell.

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Chrysler official position is that it's caused by heat cracking the circuit board in some component. Chrysler has all sorts of crap qa and qc issues. I understand some like yourself enjoy the challenge of keeping one functional, but even you would have your work cut out restoring a burned out shell.



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No it is not. I said N23. That link you posted about catching on fire is for the WK2's and a sun visor recall, not the wk1's. Does that look like your Jeep in the picture? You don't know what your talking about, the n23 recall is for wk1 cars going into neutral when parked. Do you want me to dig up all the recalls ever issued on mazdas? I'm sure I'll find a crap ton. Are there any more rounds left in your cylinder or are you all out of ammo now?


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No it is not. I said N23. That link you posted about catching on fire is for the WK2's and a sun visor recall, not the wk1's. You don't know what your talking about, the n23 recall is for cars going into neutral when parked. Do you want me to dig up all the recalls ever issued on mazdas? I'm sure I'll find a crap ton. Are there any more rounds left in your cylinder or are you all out of ammo now?

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Ok, I guess this is just one of those cases where an owners needs align with one car more so than another. Comparing a WK1 GC to a CX5 is really an apples and oranges scenario. The WK1 is a fair bit older, then cx-5 is more of a town car. Comparing the CX-5 to a WK2 there are going to be a few pros and cons, the WK2 is going to accelerate better and be better for offroad, towing, highway driving, more cargo, etc. It is going to be generally more enjoyable to drive, but yes, the Jeeps do have more glitches than a mazda does, so if you don't need any of the former attributes, then the mazda isn't a bad choice.

On snow, the WK2 and the KL are going to perform better with a superior off road system and better clearance.

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Ok, I guess this is just one of those cases where an owners needs align with one car more so than another. Comparing a WK1 GC to a CX5 is really an apples and oranges scenario. The WK1 is a fair bit older, then cx-5 is more of a town car. Comparing the CX-5 to a WK2 there are going to be a few pros and cons, the WK2 is going to accelerate better and be better for offroad, towing, highway driving, more cargo, etc. It is going to be generally more enjoyable to drive, but yes, the Jeeps do have more glitches than a mazda does, so if you don't need any of the former attributes, then the mazda isn't a bad choice.

On snow, the WK2 and the KL are going to perform better with a superior off road system and better clearance.

Its not that the owner needs to align with one vehicle or another, the op has become an advertisement for both mazda and CR. if you haven't guessed. CR tends to leave a bad taste in people mouths here because they tend to be biased against American cars.
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Its not that the owner needs to align with one vehicle or another, the op has become an advertisement for both mazda and CR. if you haven't guessed. CR tends to leave a bad taste in people mouths here because they tend to be biased against American cars.
The problem I have with CR is that all issues are given the same weighting, so a blown engine is the same as 'USB port doesn't work'.

But that aside, I would agree with the contention that Jeeps tend to have more glitches than some japanese brands, such as mazda. The trans issues would highlight this. But if you can get past this the Jeep is far better vehicle to drive, be that the KL which is more in the mazda class or the WK2. If you don't care how your car drives or what it is capable of, then you won't put much value on the Jeep. I don't understand that mindset at all, but it exists.
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No it is not. I said N23. That link you posted about catching on fire is for the WK2's and a sun visor recall, not the wk1's. Does that look like your Jeep in the picture? You don't know what your talking about, the n23 recall is for wk1 cars going into neutral when parked. Do you want me to dig up all the recalls ever issued on mazdas? I'm sure I'll find a crap ton. Are there any more rounds left in your cylinder or are you all out of ammo now?


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Its not that the owner needs to align with one vehicle or another, the op has become an advertisement for both mazda and CR. if you haven't guessed. CR tends to leave a bad taste in people mouths here because they tend to be biased against American cars.
CR loves toyota...mostly American made.
Yes...please find me some cx5 recalls....


The cx5 accelerates about identically to a 2015 V6 wk2. Sufficient but not super impressive.
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The problem I have with CR is that all issues are given the same weighting, so a blown engine is the same as 'USB port doesn't work'.

But that aside, I would agree with the contention that Jeeps tend to have more glitches than some japanese brands, such as mazda. The trans issues would highlight this. But if you can get past this the Jeep is far better vehicle to drive, be that the KL which is more in the mazda class or the WK2. If you don't care how your car drives or what it is capable of, then you won't put much value on the Jeep. I don't understand that mindset at all, but it exists.
The cx5 is much more engaging that anything but an srt jeep. Handling is great. Reminds me of a sport sedan. The acceleration is merely adequate is the only negative...but at the benefit of 24 mpg city and 30 hwy.

Even with bilsteins my wk with hemi wasn't near as fun to drive as my cx5 as a whole.
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Yes...please find me some cx5 recalls....


The cx5 accelerates about identically to a 2015 V6 wk2. Sufficient but not super impressive.
Not really, the V6 is slightly quicker from 0-60, but overtaking the power delivery is far more urgent in the V6 than the 4 cylinder in the cx5.
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