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HID/LED Headlight Project

Recently I completed a projector retrofit on my motorcycle. I was pretty much hooked right away. As I tell my wife often:
"There are worse hobbies I could be spending money on"
With that I'll get started

My 08 WK is a Laredo and came equipped with the halogen headlamps. We've all seen them, nothing special or exciting.


I threw in a set of Silverstar Ultras once the first bulb went out. Halogen Light output:



The OEM HID headlights to me look awesome. I've wanted to get a set after I saw them the first time. They are HID and use a Valeo D1s Projector & Ballast. I still need to buy a set. I'm looking at a few options online now but if anyone has a set for cheap please send me a message.


The new thing in the headlight world is LED. Here is where the fun really is going to start.

Lucky for me the Jeep WK OEM setup only requires a lowbeam 2.5" projector. This means I don't have to attempt to fit a Bixenon in the small area. I chose to go with LED projectors out of a 2015 Nissan Murano. I purchased these from "Theretrofitsource.com". I will need to shave off a little of the heatsink below the lens to make it fit but I don't see it becoming a problem.


The LED projectors have NO Ballasts or Bulbs. Which is a blessing and a curse. If a projector ever goes out I will need to replace the whole unit but the up front cost is much much cheaper. The LED's also have a longer life expectancy. I also ordered a set of clear lenses to swap on. A clear lens is used a lot on retrofits to add to the color of the cutoff and/or to increase the sharpness of the cutoff.

Projector Testing & Output shots!! @50ft-60ft with stock lens. Surprised at how wide they actually are, I kept hearing that the beams were super narrow and pencil-like.
The Setup:

Left Projector Output:

Left Projector Cutoff:

Right Projector Output:

Slight bowing to the left and right along the cutoff. You can kinda see it here. Center of beam is aimed at far right of white fence:

Color in the bow to the left. Equal sized on the right:

This was the right side of the beam that wasn't out into the yard. I love the color these have:

Purpley-Blue

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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

Separate lens holder from LED & Heatsink.


Remove plastic lens with flathead because it's glued on



Cut 3 nubs off lens holder with knife




Ooooo clear lens



Lens is a little thicker at the base. Used some sandpaper to get it smooth. Lens ring still didn't fully clip in place. I'll have to sand it down more.



Saw this on the wires



Ready for test



Pictures coming!
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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

I'm really ashamed I only had my phone to take pictures..... but enjoy anyway haha

All testing done at about 110-120ft. I paced it out. Any full distance shots for the projectors are only 1 on.

Stock headlights. Both are on.



Stock plastic crap lined lens!
Not sharp. Super colorful up close but seems very random in coloring.




Clear lens. I just clipped it on and didn't fiddle with positioning on the lens holder.... you'll see why.




Phone wasn't picking up on the amount of color. Took my white T-shirt off to try and help it. Top of tee is top of purple.



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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

Took some better shots over the weekend in my backyard.

Testing Set Up:
Power Supply.

White Fence is 60' away & 60' wide.

Trashcans to get everything off the ground.


Testing Lens Alignment:
Output good (aligned at bottom):

Output bad (aligned at center):

Output worst (aligned at top):


Good Output shots:





Drop off at the ends:





Let me know what you guys think!! This project is on stand still till I can buy a set of OEM HID headlights.
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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

I would think for the left/driver's light (US) that the aligned bottom would be perfect and for the right/passenger side the aligned center would be best.
Reason is it looks like it would still keep any glare for oncoming traffic to a minimum, but also it looks like the right side sweeps up to help catch road signs when needed. The left/DS should still dominate the sharp cut off when parked near something for people to see that as well.
Looks like an awesome project, and I do agree that the OEM style HID housing are much better looking that retrofitting. Since I have a black GC and like the blacked look better, I would opt for the black oem style housing when I get to that point. I look forward to more info on this with the LED projectors! They look very bright and crisp with the new lens.
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I would think for the left/driver's light (US) that the aligned bottom would be perfect and for the right/passenger side the aligned center would be best.
Reason is it looks like it would still keep any glare for oncoming traffic to a minimum, but also it looks like the right side sweeps up to help catch road signs when needed. The left/DS should still dominate the sharp cut off when parked near something for people to see that as well.
Looks like an awesome project, and I do agree that the OEM style HID housing are much better looking that retrofitting. Since I have a black GC and like the blacked look better, I would opt for the black oem style housing when I get to that point. I look forward to more info on this with the LED projectors! They look very bright and crisp with the new lens.
I see what you're saying. I think the black housing would definitely look better on a black GC. With mine being silver I thought I'd be able to pull off either housing I eventually decided that I wanted to keep it looking as OEM as possible though.

If you look at this pictures below you'll see the faint light above the cutoff. The "Squirrel Finder" as it is called should light the road signs up well enough (I've been wrong before though).

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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

Gotcha; I'm just asking questions to gain more knowledge about the subject. I hope this all goes well for you; I might have to do the same thing. I'd much prefer the idea of LED light "bulb" versus a HID for power draw and heat output inside the fixture where airflow is non existent.
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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

How do you know the Murano LED will fit into the same place as the OEM housing space? Or will you end up cutting as needed?
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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

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Gotcha; I'm just asking questions to gain more knowledge about the subject. I hope this all goes well for you; I might have to do the same thing. I'd much prefer the idea of LED light "bulb" versus a HID for power draw and heat output inside the fixture where airflow is non existent.
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How do you know the Murano LED will fit into the same place as the OEM housing space? Or will you end up cutting as needed?
I hope it goes well for me too! I don't have the headlights yet so the project is pretty much frozen for right now. At least till I can buy them (I'm trying to sell some parts I have around the garage from my old motorcycle).

The LED definitely is a lighter load on the electrical system. I need to do a test to make sure the projector will work ok without a relay harness. From what I've seen the Canbus systems can be finicky sometimes.

Here are the size measurements that I've been able to find:

Both lenses are about 2.5". My plan is to cut and trim as needed. JB Weld and bolts will be my mounting method. I don't want to trim too much because that means I'm trimming heatsink. Heat dissipation isn't something I want to mess with too much (I'm sure the Nichia LED engineers calc'ed everything correctly).

I have some measurement pictures saved if you'd like me to post them?

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Valeo Bi-Xenon D1S (the bixenon is the same size as the low beam only):
Diameter = 82.55mm
Height = 96.00mm
Width = 106.20mm
Solenoid(sticks out by) = 9.40mm
Solenoid Length(from mounting holes) = 69.05
Length = 156.20mm
Length(seat of the lens to mounting holes) = 49.45mm
Length(mounting holes to end of bulb w/D2S) = 84.25mm
Width(between top mounting holes) = 72.20mm
Width(between bottom mounting holes) = 70.95mm
Height(between mounting holes) = 78.20mm

Murano LED Lowbeam:
Trimmed:
155mm deep
85mm tall
79mm wide
Untrimmed:
155mm deep
90mm tall
102mm wide
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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

Update:
Ran a small bead of JB weld (epoxy) around the gray lens retainers and set my clear lens onto them. Did my best with alignment and put more JB around the edge. It's difficult to do these lighting projects because you need it to be dark and light at the same time.


Top Alignment

Bottom Alignment

Curing waiting for it to get dark


Got bored waiting for it to get dark..... Decided to test the projectors at 20ft while I wait. Cutoff and Color looks perfect to me.

Also tried firing both projectors up at the same time with my power supply. To my surprise it didn't have any problems.


Night shots. Same parameters as before- 60ft distance from the projector to the fence.
Both on




Drivers side

Passenger side

~3" of purple blue color at 60ft. I consider that really good.
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Was slacking posting updates here.


Let the baking begin!



Everything is apart. I don't have a dremel so I'll have to stop by my parents to grab it. Murano heatsinks need some trimming to fit behind the OEM shroud. (Everything to the right of the Sharpie)

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Re: HID/LED Headlight Project

Cut off "cross brace".


Popped out turn signal diffuser.


Heat sink trimmed. They're very very tough.


Not sure what this top hole was for. Possibly a turn signal bulb vent?? Anyway I figured it's easier to cut this shroud area then the heat sink.


Marked and cut.



Held projector in the area to check clearance. I didn't remove too much of the turn signal reflector.

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