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Old 07-22-2012, 08:38 AM
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Sorry to say there is no fraud here......what we have is standard used car 'in your ass' treatment from the dealer that sold it to you.

Now is not the time to be asking about 'uni- body damage'. Should have done your DueDiligence BEFORE you bought this POS.

IMO its best to cut and run. Sell it to the next sucker or trade it for something else.

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Old 07-23-2012, 10:32 AM
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Re: Jeep VIN Number Locations - HELP! Possible Car Fraud Victim!

I agree with robpp. If you had any slight hint of problems with the accident report and or shady vibes from the dealeship you should of BACKED out then. Once you signed your name on the contract you basically acknowledged that there were "inconsistencies" with the car (even if it wasnt discused. Based on this previous knowledge of "said" inconsistences the dealership isnt going to do anything. If they had not disclosed / consulted with you like you said, then that would have been grounds for fraud.......Im sorry to say this but you should cut your losses and run the first chance you get.

I had the same problem with a brand new 08 honda civic I bought.
carfax said it had been totaled before it had 10 miles on it. It was NEVER disclosed at ALL, the origional dealership in charleston sc sold it to a dealership in columbia sc, (without telling them about the damage) I in turn purchased the car from the columbia dealership and was never told because the dealership was never told. we found out 2 years later when we tried to sell the car. It was black flaged by carfax. We were able to trace it back to the original dealership and they were forced to buy the car back at the original price or face a lawsuit.

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Re: Jeep VIN Number Locations - HELP! Possible Car Fraud Victim!

Originally Posted by WildVisionsWK View Post
Yep, I already sent it over. Waiting to hear what he says about it. I'm just so upset that I am locked into a terrible, expensive loan on a car that was giving me problems since the first week of purchase. The dealer refuses to do anything about it, the car is dead, and I'm left paying almost $300/month for a paperweight of questionable origins.

I like WK Jeeps, but I wish my experience with one could have been more positive. I had big plans for this car and had already put a bit of money/time into mods and now I feel that it was wasted.

Also, a question for those of you who have WKs here. When I purchased it, the VIN produced an Autocheck report that stated it has 'frame and unibody damage'. I was about to back out of the sale and not buy it, but the dealer showed me photos of the front/rear bumpers that showed some minor scuffs and dents that looked like someone backed this thing into a gas station pole with both ends. There was NO crunching of the bumper and it looked like an easy 'pop it out and repaint it' job. So...what kind of impact is needed on these WKs to produce a 'frame and unibody damage' note in a vehicle report? Could the dealer have patched up the car to some extent, put on bumpers from a scrap yard, and THEN photographed it and passed that off as the damage? I want to know how much abuse a WK needs to go through to obtain such a mark on it's title. If this vehicle was wrecked, I feel I need to know.

Rule of thumb, never buy a vehicle with frame damage. More often than not you'll have continuous problems with it.

To answer your question about the photos, I would say that the photos the dealer showed you were not related to the accident that caused the frame damage. WK's are tanks, and you would have some serious body damage associated with frame damage.

Unfortunately, I'd say you have no legal recourse. As was previously stated, once you sign, you're buying it "as is". You're expected to do due diligence before signing. Only thing you can do is never give the dealer your business again and tell you friends/family to do the same.

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