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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

I agree with all the previous posters. I would definitely try to look for the 4.7L Gen II V8 with 305HP compared to the Gen I with 235HP. Regardless I would go for any V8 you can find. If you could afford it I would venture into HEMI territory
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Old 01-28-2012, 12:32 PM
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

I agree with 2005jgc but i do own a lifted 3.7 with larger wheels and i have noticed no difference in fuel economy. I do not need the power to get up and go down the highway ecspecially since i lifted it. Its up to you and good luck.
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

I've never been a big fan of those hemi V8 motors. My friends (besides the dodge/hemi fans) have been disappointed in them. The 4.7 I debate back and forth on.

I've always been under the impression for these underpowered motors (such as my current 4.0L V6 (Explorer) and the 3.7's in the jeeps [both have 210 horsepower]) to just re-gear the differential. I have 3.73's in my Explorer and its not too bad with 31's. So I imagine if I re-gear a 3.7 I wouldn't have too much issue with moving larger tires.

Anyone know have a link to the Axle Codes? I'll try searching.
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

One other thing; how many skid plates do these GCs come with?
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

There are no aftermarket gears made for the front differential in the grand thus preventing any gear changes.

If your lucky you can find one with the factory skid plate package that has STEEL plates on the fuel tank, transfer case and under the motor, otherwise you will have plastic splash shield under the engine and a steel fuel tank skid.

The Hemi is night and day over the gen I 4.7 (used through 2007MY). The Hemi is really a pretty stout motor that other than some lifter tick we really don't have major issues with. I have been into a 4.7l and 3.7l WAY more than I have been into a hemi. From there the 4.7 (even the gen I) is night and day over the 3.7l

My only thing was your comment about adding things like exhaust (not having actually looked back to quote you) spending that money would be for not much more than noise on the 3.7, don't expect to buy it and slap a couple goodies on it and have it performing like even the 4.7l because it wont .
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

Hmm, that's quite odd that they don't make aftermarket gears for the GC. I would do the intake and exhaust to try to squeeze out some extra ponies and an extra mpg. I don't like the sound of the V6 (kind of ricey, well the Ford 4.0L is), so I would be sold on a V8 right there
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

I still stand by that the 2008-2010 4.7 Gen two is the best "sleeper" deal out there. Nothing wrong with the Hemi. I drove both, the Hemi is a beast out the hole and in the mid-range. Up top, the 4.7 Gen two will hold it's own. The point I want to make is that when it comes to current resale, the Hemi commands quite a bit more than the 4.7. That may be due to the name playing on consumers minds or something eles, I really don't know. That is the reason I bought my 4.7 gen two. It was 4800.00 cheaper than the Hemi. 30Hp and 40Lbs-ft torque were not worth that much to me. However, there is the rare 2010 WK's with the VVT Hemi. I have yet to see one, but they did build them. Those are supposed to have nearly 360HP If you can find one
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I still stand by that the 2008-2010 4.7 Gen two is the best "sleeper" deal out there. Nothing wrong with the Hemi. I drove both, the Hemi is a beast out the hole and in the mid-range. Up top, the 4.7 Gen two will hold it's own. The point I want to make is that when it comes to current resale, the Hemi commands quite a bit more than the 4.7. That may be due to the name playing on consumers minds or something eles, I really don't know. That is the reason I bought my 4.7 gen two. It was 4800.00 cheaper than the Hemi. 30Hp and 40Lbs-ft torque were not worth that much to me. However, there is the rare 2010 WK's with the VVT Hemi. I have yet to see one, but they did build them. Those are supposed to have nearly 360HP If you can find one
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I still stand by that the 2008-2010 4.7 Gen two is the best "sleeper" deal out there. Nothing wrong with the Hemi. I drove both, the Hemi is a beast out the hole and in the mid-range. Up top, the 4.7 Gen two will hold it's own. The point I want to make is that when it comes to current resale, the Hemi commands quite a bit more than the 4.7. That may be due to the name playing on consumers minds or something eles, I really don't know. That is the reason I bought my 4.7 gen two. It was 4800.00 cheaper than the Hemi. 30Hp and 40Lbs-ft torque were not worth that much to me. However, there is the rare 2010 WK's with the VVT Hemi. I have yet to see one, but they did build them. Those are supposed to have nearly 360HP If you can find one
Same here 300 hp and 20+ mpg.

I've been getting 20+ mpg on winter gas with my gen 2 4.7. On my last trip to denver i drove 465 miles total going from 8000 feet down to 5280in denver, 60 miles around denver in horrific traffic and back home. When i got home my avg mpg said 20.0 mpg.
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

3.73:1 is the only gearing that I know of. Had my trans cooler lines replaced a year ago and also needed a new starter & battery within the last year. Not too bad for an 05' with 85K on it. Love my 2" lift and QDII... It's taken me everywhere I have wanted to & has even surprised me from time to time. Excellent on snow & ice. It's been fun to mod, especially seeing how innovative WK'ers can get. I keep up on the maintenance & it treats me good. It likes to look shiny & pretty, but also plays hard. I would only part with mine for a loaded 2010... tons more upgrades. Just don't repeat that to my 05'
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09-10 has the vvt <3 my overland get a hemi bro
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Re: New guy needing advice on picking a WK

So I've been doing my research and you guys have me changing my mind to a 4.7L V8. I may just wait a little bit longer to get a 2008-2009 model as it has a lot more power than previous years.

So which engine/drive train comes with what transfer case?
Quadra Drive II -
Quadra Trac II -
Quadra Trac I - I assume from what I have read this is the one on the V6 models as it has no neutral or 4-low?

Out of the Quadra Drive and Quadra Trac what's the better choice and why?

I hope you guys don't mind all the questions. I'm just trying to learn all I can before taking the plunge into something that I will own and deal with for many years.
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