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Okay guys I picked up a set of OEM HID headlights with Oracle halos already installed. (I'm going to convert me 08' with OEM Halogen to these OEM HID's using scotts thread) Unfortunately the epoxy on the halo's have came off so now I have to re-glue them. So..... I have to open them up!

I've seen different things regarding how long and how-to.. but the big thread on here regarding it lacked pictures


What parts of the headlights do I take out before baking? I took out the bulbs and the Ballasts. In the picture I have, what else Do I have to take out? the actual Projector? or will it be okay in the oven. Will wires be okay? Also this gray thing in the top right of the HID bulb too? (Thanks guys, i'm a novice here, so dumb everything down!!)

After I get them open, can anyone tell me or link me to some epoxy that would be safe for the ccfl halos?







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What parts of the headlights do I take out before baking? I took out the bulbs and the Ballasts. In the picture I have, what else Do I have to take out? the actual Projector? or will it be okay in the oven. Will wires be okay? Also this gray thing in the top right of the HID bulb too? (Thanks guys, i'm a novice here, so dumb everything down!!)

After I get them open, can anyone tell me or link me to some epoxy that would be safe for the ccfl halos? [/URL]


Hey man it is very easy so do not worry about it. What you need to take out are all the bulbs, the ballasts and the rubber caps. You will not be able to remove the actual projector without opening it. I'm not sure what the gray thing is... It might be an autoleveling system. I've never dealt with one before though. Maybe see if it is easily removable? If not I would just leave it on for baking. You won't be using a high temperature so it should be okay.

If you have a heat gun I highly suggest using it on the tabs and bending them out of the way (go easy). This isn't critical but I find it easier to do before throwing the headlight in the oven. If not, don't worry you can get them later. I bake headlights at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for 7-10 minutes. I turn a cookie sheet upside down and make sure that no parts of the housing are touching any oven internals. Some people place the headlight on a block of wood or some cardboard but that's up to you (I'm not a huge fan of flammable things in the oven. It may take a few times to get it opened up completely but don't get frustrated. Just stick it back in the oven for an additional 3 minutes and try again. Make sure to have gloves on and 2 flathead screwdrivers to help you.

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Hey man it is very easy so do not worry about it. What you need to take out are all the bulbs, the ballasts and the rubber caps. You will not be able to remove the actual projector without opening it. I'm not sure what the gray thing is... It might be an autoleveling system. I've never dealt with one before though. Maybe see if it is easily removable? If not I would just leave it on for baking. You won't be using a high temperature so it should be okay.

If you have a heat gun I highly suggest using it on the tabs and bending them out of the way (go easy). This isn't critical but I find it easier to do before throwing the headlight in the oven. If not, don't worry you can get them later. I bake headlights at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for 7-10 minutes. I turn a cookie sheet upside down and make sure that no parts of the housing are touching any oven internals. Some people place the headlight on a block of wood or some cardboard but that's up to you (I'm not a huge fan of flammable things in the oven. It may take a few times to get it opened up completely but don't get frustrated. Just stick it back in the oven for an additional 3 minutes and try again. Make sure to have gloves on and 2 flathead screwdrivers to help you.

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The wires should be fine to leave on there?
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The wires should be fine to leave on there?
If you can't remove them easily with a clip or something just leave them on. They should be okay as long as they do not touch the sides of the oven.
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Re: Opening OEM HID Headlights - w/ Oracle Halo's

They might be easier since someone had them apart already. Also, it looks like they sprayed your hi-beam reflector black, odd, now its unusable. Also, the projector looks like it's been replaced with a larger one, maybe it has an actuated cover for low/hi beams and the hi-beam reflector isn't needed.
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They might be easier since someone had them apart already. Also, it looks like they sprayed your hi-beam reflector black, odd, now its unusable. Also, the projector looks like it's been replaced with a larger one, maybe it has an actuated cover for low/hi beams and the hi-beam reflector isn't needed.
He is correct! Until you open them up you won't know what you're dealing with. I'd hope that they put in a bi-xenon projector there to compensate for the painted high beam reflector. I'd assume not though only because it is a D1s bulb in the rear and I doubt anyone went out of their way to put in a bi-xenon D1s projector.

When are you planning to open these up?
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The high beams didn't come to mind, that's unfortunate... Think i could live without them though. Well I'm planning to open them up next weekend. Thanks for the help guys. Any idea what kind of epoxy would be appropriate for the halos?
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The high beams didn't come to mind, that's unfortunate... Think i could live without them though. Well I'm planning to open them up next weekend. Thanks for the help guys. Any idea what kind of epoxy would be appropriate for the halos?
I've never mounted Oracle Halos before... I'd suggest clear epoxy of some kind though. I'm a big fan of JB weld in my builds but it's black and can get messy. If you go with a clear one it'll be a lot less noticeable if at all.
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Re: Opening OEM HID Headlights - w/ Oracle Halo's

Hey guys finally opened it up, 7 minutes at 220* worked well. For anyone opening up themselves, what worked for me was using two flatheads - use one to twist between the seems and one to twist to pry the tab open at the same time and repeat on each tab.

Sooo here's what I'm currently doing,




Weighing down the oracle halo's with the JB weld... in the mean time i'm thinking about wiring this part while it's drying :

How to Ver2: make 2008 HID WK headlights plug and play on 05-07 WK's

I was also sold this:



Now parts of it are cut cause he wanted to hard wire it instead of connecting... I think it's a 9006 relay harness?? Can anyone give me a link to a pair that would work for me? Also, i'm not sure where or what i'm wiring the oracles too, if anyone can chime in!

Thanks fellas! and if more pictures would make it easier to answer let me know!

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I was also sold this:

Now parts of it are cut cause he wanted to hard wire it instead of connecting... I think it's a 9006 relay harness?? Can anyone give me a link to a pair that would work for me? Also, i'm not sure where or what i'm wiring the oracles too, if anyone can chime in!

Thanks fellas! and if more pictures would make it easier to answer let me know!

Ken
Ken,

Do you have a switch inside that you can wire them to? If not I'd suggest looking into it. It would make it a clean install. If not you could wire them to be on whenever the headlights are on but a switch would allow a lot more flexibility.

"www.thesteelarmadillo" offers a switch panel. If you go that route here is the link: CLICK HERE
(You will need the 4 bin style since you have an 08)

If you'd like to try and salvage that harness you would need to buy some 9006 connections. Honestly I'd say buy a new one though. Below are 3. I can only verify that the first one worked for me on my application. The other 2 could work but I have not personally tested them.

I have this harness for my project:
TRS MOPAR SPEC: LOW BEAM HARNESS

This one might work but I know my Jeep was having flicker issues with my LED projectors: TRS HD RELAY: 9006

You could go the cheaper route and use this one: DDM Tuning Premium Harness
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Do you have a switch inside that you can wire them to? If not I'd suggest looking into it. It would make it a clean install. If not you could wire them to be on whenever the headlights are on but a switch would allow a lot more flexibility.

"www.thesteelarmadillo" offers a switch panel. If you go that route here is the link: CLICK HERE
(You will need the 4 bin style since you have an 08)

If you'd like to try and salvage that harness you would need to buy some 9006 connections. Honestly I'd say buy a new one though. Below are 3. I can only verify that the first one worked for me on my application. The other 2 could work but I have not personally tested them.

I have this harness for my project:
TRS MOPAR SPEC: LOW BEAM HARNESS

This one might work but I know my Jeep was having flicker issues with my LED projectors: TRS HD RELAY: 9006

You could go the cheaper route and use this one: DDM Tuning Premium Harness

I'm now soldering some wires and going to close the headlights, almost done! Connecting the Oracle wires to a lower gauge (thicker wire) so then I could wire that to the parking lights.


Would these work as well? :

Mopar HID Wire Harness Kit

If not i'll pick up the TRS MOPAR SPEC ones
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Also, I'm sort of interested in those switches you posted. How would I go about installing them if I went that route? I'm worried about accessibility when installing, am I going to have to open up the entire dashboard and then run the wire all the way to where the dash is?

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Would these work as well? :

Mopar HID Wire Harness Kit

If not i'll pick up the TRS MOPAR SPEC ones
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Also, I'm sort of interested in those switches you posted. How would I go about installing them if I went that route? I'm worried about accessibility when installing, am I going to have to open up the entire dashboard and then run the wire all the way to where the dash is?
Ken,
That harness looks to me like that harness will work! You could always shoot them an email to be 100% sure. I think xenon depot is an official vendor on this forum? I could be wrong on that part though.

The link I sent you is just for the switch plate. The switches made to go in them can be purchased here: OTRATTW :: Switch w/Rocker :: Contura V

They're a little pricey but a very clean install. You would need to get power to them from somewhere. My plan is to tap off the cigarette lighter to get power to them. It only has to be enough to fire a relay I'll place in the engine compartment. In order to mount the plate and switches you do not need to take apart the whole dash. Getting power to them may be a different story though.
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