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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

Can you use aluminum rivets?I've been using them for years working on stock cars and I know they hold like a champ.
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

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Can you use aluminum rivets?I've been using them for years working on stock cars and I know they hold like a champ.

The metal rivets they sell at Homedepot and hardware stores have small heads, the plastic rivets are typically larger. The holes on the plastic parts on these WK's are large diameter. I came across the push in pin type plastic fasteners, like the ones on the grill on the WK just different sizes and lenghts that would prob work just as good. Just have to know the hole diameter and depth when your ordering.

Zip ties and duct tape works wonders as well. Lol. On my last 95 GC the weld along the front edge of the hood was so rusted the upper and lower seperated so I ran duct tape across the front to the sides, to keep the hood from popping up. I happen to find a hood the exact same color at a junk yard for like 75 bucks so i got that after awhile.
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

The do make a small,medium and large head rivets as well Timmy.
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

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The do make a small,medium and large head rivets as well Timmy.

I know, but when I was looking around at the metal ones the back part of them, where they compress and split did not appear to be that wide enough to be able to catch around the large holes in the plastic parts. meaning if you use a metal rivet the piece will just fall off basically because the metal rivet is not wide enough. Thats only going off the sizes i found at hardware stores, and even grainger. You can tell the difference of the sizes between plastic and metal rivets just with the guns/setters they use. The ones for metal rivets are too small to accept the pins of the plastic rivets, I tried them all.

Look on the packaging of the metal rivets, and they list the hole needed to be drilled for the rivets to go thru and be set. The sizes are no where near those on the plastic parts.
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

Ok,I get what you are trying to say...I just don't trust plastic lol.
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

you better gid rid of any vehicle nowadays then
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

I know Scotty,I know that it's just impossible to get away from plastic but when it comes to fasteners I rather replace with metal.
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

all the metal rivets like your talking about have small heads....and wont they rust?
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

Knowing myself I'll prob will remove things to do mods or clean and I'd rather cut the plastic ones off and replace them than the metal. But I know what you mean with the security of metal rivets. But if something goes wrong, the plastic rivets will break off and sometimes will do less if not any damage to your vehicle. But if the metal ones hold stronger you may tear/crack the bumper/fender/etc...
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Re: Plastic rivets and rivet gun-must have tools for the WK

Not sure why you want to use metal, but ok. Usually arent the metal rivets used when fabbing body panel and welding then together. I'd luv to see a metal rivet the size of these plastic ones on the side skirts, would need alot of pressure to set those suckers on, and then a grinder to ever remove them.
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all the metal rivets like your talking about have small heads....and wont they rust?

They sell different kinds, galvanized shouldnt rust out. I dont think aluminum will either. But I really dont think he has actually removed a piece off a WK to see what we are talking about, how the holes to set the fasteners thru are large.
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Ok,I get what you are trying to say...I just don't trust plastic lol.

Well you should trust plastic. The whole WK is held together with plastic fasteners. I went thru the trouble of find a few specs on the plastic rivets noted above. pull out resistance is around 50lbs and shear load is around 75lbs. So thats a typical fastener of that size, times 9 I think for the total number of rivets used for the side skirts, so 450lbs. Thats plenty to hold the side skirt on.

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