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Old 08-23-2016, 12:08 PM
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Well Jeff I've been putting 30 min already in trying your method...with no luck...I'm about to get violent with it...in which point it may not survive...lol

Going to check on how much a replacement is first lol

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Well I got super rough with the intake and finally it came out..

But something to note, when I got it free I heard water sloshing around in it...so I poured it out into a bucket and into a bottle so you could see how much water was in it...

So my thoughts right now is this thing has been into some water wether it be flood water or someone ran it into the river I don't know...we will see what all comes out later...

Also another note anytime I jack the jeep up water comes out of the muffler...don't know if that's related...but it's something I observed...

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Yup that's a 32oz bottle btw...
Lol I did say you may need to get rough with it lol.

With that much water I say it was hydrolocked

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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

Guess I'll put the battery back on it and turn it over maybe I'll get it to unlock...
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:01 PM
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Guess I'll put the battery back on it and turn it over maybe I'll get it to unlock...
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

Sorry for the late reply, been one of those days, was in a small accident in one of my other vehicles, and had to reschedule my surgery for Friday....but anyway

Put the battery in, it won't turn the engine either, I put the breaker bar back on it tried to move it either direction with it not budging....I feel like something horrible has happened inside...so now I need to prepare to pull the engine with the trans attached...any pointers on this? Will the trans be ok suspending its own weight by the bell housing at least long enough for me to slide it out of the engine bay?

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Also what are some good points on this engine to mount to with my engine crane??

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Should I just pull the engine with the torque converter still attached? I know it would be a mess but would it be simpler?

I'm almost have tempted just to pull the trans and have it gone through by a transmission shop anyway, just so I know it's ok as well...since there seems to be surprises at every turn with this jeep..
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Sorry for the late reply, been one of those days, was in a small accident in one of my other vehicles, and had to reschedule my surgery for Friday....but anyway

Put the battery in, it won't turn the engine either, I put the breaker bar back on it tried to move it either direction with it not budging....I feel like something horrible has happened inside...so now I need to prepare to pull the engine with the trans attached...any pointers on this? Will the trans be ok suspending its own weight by the bell housing at least long enough for me to slide it out of the engine bay?

---------- Post added at 11:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 PM ----------

Also what are some good points on this engine to mount to with my engine crane??

---------- Post added 08-24-2016 at 12:24 AM ---------- Previous post was 08-23-2016 at 11:50 PM ----------

Should I just pull the engine with the torque converter still attached? I know it would be a mess but would it be simpler?

I'm almost have tempted just to pull the trans and have it gone through by a transmission shop anyway, just so I know it's ok as well...since there seems to be surprises at every turn with this jeep..
It should support it's weight fine as long as all the bell housing bolts are in.
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

If it has been in deep water you should check all your lubricants. Transmission, differentials, transfer case. If you find water, change your torque converter.
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

Yeah I'm slowly coming around to the fact that this is probably going to be a rebuild front to back...

After I get all my stuff done at the hospital tomorrow, here's my plans..

Get the jeep up on either ramps, or jack stands or both..probably both..

Undo and take out the whole exhaust...

Check fluids in the diffs and transfer case..

Pull engine with transmission..

And guess go from there, be prepared for a bunch of pics...maybe another time lapse and of course a lot of questions lolol


I want to thank you guys again for answering all my silly questions I really appreciate it!
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

Ok guys about to undo the last few bolts and the engine will be free...question I have is can I use these same points on the engine to pull it???


Also I'm just going to try to slide the engine forward taking the torque converter with it...you think that's possible?? I still plan on pulling the trans but just not yet...
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Ok guys about to undo the last few bolts and the engine will be free...question I have is can I use these same points on the engine to pull it???

Also I'm just going to try to slide the engine forward taking the torque converter with it...you think that's possible?? I still plan on pulling the trans but just not yet...
I wouldn't if you want to reuse the heads
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

Well I ended up making a jig to pull the engine, pretty much like the mopar one you can buy....except it's not as pretty...but it's getting the job done..


Had a buddy come over, someone more agile and able to monkey around the engine bay better than I can..we attached the jig and tested it by lifting up on the engine, well it lifted the whole front end of the jeep so I think we are good with the jig. So it took quite a bit of time to get to a couple of the bolts on the higher side of the bell housing...we ran out of time last night but we still have the top 2 bolts, which I guess we are going to have to get to by going over the top of the engine. And then remove the engine mounts so we can slide the engine forward with the torque converter.


The one thing that has got me puzzled is that little bracket at the bottom the engine and bell housing, everyone else seems to have zero trouble just sliding it out when you unbolt it, not my case though...it's in there until I pull the engine I guess...

So all that's left is the top 2 bell housing bolts and the engine mounts and it'll be out...its taking longer than expected but that's what happens when you run into issues and have to make your own lifting plate I guess lol

I have surgery this afternoon after that we will see what I can get done the next few days... One things for sure I need to redo my welds on my jig, I was in a hurry and didn't lay the best welds like I usually do...

To be continued...

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Oh and I'm going to drop the trans and see how much here locally I can get it worked on, just don't want it to fail after I put the engine back in. Guess I'll do the same for the transfer case as well...
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

So I can't sleep in pain, so thought I would obsess over the jeep some, I originally wanted to do a spacer lift kit...but the more I think about it, I want to do a legit lift kit, springs and all, with a total of 3.5 to 4 inches of lift...

I know there's all kinds of threads on lift kits...anyone have a favorite? OME seems to be the favorite around here...what else would you recommend besides the kit...I figure there will have to be additional parts to keep the geometry correct and such..

Update on engine pull...I won't probably be able to touch it until Sunday afternoon, my buddy can come back over that day, and maybe I've healed up enough that I can more than just direct what I need him to do...
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So I can't sleep in pain, so thought I would obsess over the jeep some, I originally wanted to do a spacer lift kit...but the more I think about it, I want to do a legit lift kit, springs and all, with a total of 3.5 to 4 inches of lift...

I know there's all kinds of threads on lift kits...anyone have a favorite? OME seems to be the favorite around here...what else would you recommend besides the kit...I figure there will have to be additional parts to keep the geometry correct and such..

Update on engine pull...I won't probably be able to touch it until Sunday afternoon, my buddy can come back over that day, and maybe I've healed up enough that I can more than just direct what I need him to do...
Yup, you are correct, they make camber correct control arms and bwoody make a set of longer endlinks for the sways.

Hope you recover quick man, I wanna see more of this rebuild lol
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