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Old 08-22-2016, 07:09 PM
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Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

Finally I'm getting to make my official build thread, if you guys have been following my other post, I've been having some "fun" getting into my first Jeep project.

So...we will just take this from the beginning...

I came across this 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo at a local finance place, they had a for sale sign in it, which made me curious. I went in the place and I actually know the manager and one of the other employees there, so after asking about it, they took me out with the keys to look at it... First off it wouldn't start, had a tick when trying to start, it had a flat tire and busted driver's side window and a ding on the roof, and the front bumper had seen a small incident...all of which I felt confident in my skills I can repair myself.
Also while I was there I checked all the usual stuff, oil looked good, didn't appear to have water in it, trans fluid didn't smell burnt and had a good red tint to it. Radiator seemed to be holding water, I had a bottle of water with me and it only took about a 3 or 4 ounces of water to see it standing still in the neck. Also I used a breaker bar and turned the engine over manually and it seemed to turn smoothly with little effort.


So they said they were taking bids on it, and that I could start the bidding at $300...so I did. After a few other mechanics came to look at it, the bid had increased to $650. They called me on the last day of the bidding and told me the bid...so I went ahead and bid $675.

So I went by later in the day, I was going to see if I could get the codes off the computer so I could research it...as I walked in the door, the manager says "it's yours!" so I was pretty thrilled about that, paid the man did the paper work and had it towed home...


First things first, took the battery, and had it tested, which showed it was low, so AZ charged it for me, I took it home and tried it again, still no dice. So then I proceeded to modify the factory connector for the solenoid on the starter. New plug, soldered on, dielectric grease, and heat shrink tubing. Still no dice...So pulled the starter, and immediately after getting the starter out, I could tell physically there was something up with the bearing and housing at the end where the gear slams out to engage the flywheel. Took it to AZ and sure enough if failed all tests and started burning when trying to test it.

So bought a new starter, came home slapped it in, turned the key, and it started...well kinda...it was sputtering and making some odd noises. So I shut it off, pretty satisfied that I at least got it to start.

Compression testing...so I had an older compression tester but wasn't sure of its condition, and thought what the hell, I'll try it anyway. First cylinder I thought I would test was cylinder #1 since it was close and easy to get to. Took out the fuel pump relay, and turned the engine over, and never got an 8th of inch of deflection on the compression gauge. Hmmm thinking it might have been my old compression gauge, I went to AZ and rented one from them...hooked everything up again...and same result 😡
So now I decided to try another cylinder, cylinder #3, and sure enough 150psi....so that told me right there cylinder #1 is pretty much dead.

So then as most of you know I bought a bore scope, cheap one off eBay for like $15. At first when I used it cylinder #1 looked aweful...but made me curious.
Here's the first two videos I shot with the bore scope using my phone
https://youtu.be/LwZP0g-GzxA
https://youtu.be/QZaWlvh_Ryo

I decided to go ahead and remove the damaged bumper and anything else that was damaged

Front bumper was done, but the grill is in great condition

The brace behind the bumper was done..

The reinforcing support is pretty bashed in on the passenger side, guess I'll have to get this off and weld on a new one




The driver side wasn't too bad...


Overall look


I also discovered that the mounts for the passenger side headlight was also busted..



So I removed the light all together, actually I decided I would replace both headlights in the future...

I wasn't completely satisfied with those videos, and supposedly using a laptop may help get even better videos, plus by this time I'm pretty sure I'm just going to pull the engine anyway. So decided I would go ahead and throw #1 and #3 spark plugs back in, and start it up and hopefully be able to move the Jeep around under its own power because I needed facing the garage for when I pulled the engine. I fired it up, and it actually was running better than it had, still vibrating pretty bad but it was idling pretty well. So I decided I would put it into drive since this is another component I haven't tested, the transmission. When I put it into drive and I felt it put a load on the engine, the engine started making those noises again and so I shut it off immediately. And had my dad help me push it out and around and back up into the driveway.

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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

So since I've decided I'm going to pull the engine I decided I would pull all the plugs and take video of all the cylinders with my laptop...quality didn't improve that much...but it is what it is...

First all the plugs and their conditions..


Thing to note is when I took out the plug from cylinder #2 it was covered in sludge and smell like gas really bad. And when I bottomed out the scope in cylinder #1 this is the sludge that came out on the scope

So now for the most recent update, today I started pulling everything I could off the engine, disconnecting harnesses etc, I also went ahead and took out the radiator, a.c. condenser/trans cooler, and just moved the steering fluid cooler out of the way..

I also shot the engine bay while doing the work with a time lapse camera...still waiting to see what it all looks like..it I like what I see, I'll post it later...

Again I want to thank everyone that has helped me so far with this ongoing project, I really appreciate everything!
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

I got a kick out of your title, "Rock Bottom". That was great. Looking forward to your progress.

This thread can give you some inspiration if you haven't already seen it. I've been enthralled.
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Good stuff man! Let me know if you want that intake manifold ported. I can port that bad boy for ya. Then order a fastman tb and send it my way so I can polish it lol
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Good stuff man! Let me know if you want that intake manifold ported. I can port that bad boy for ya. Then order a fastman tb and send it my way so I can polish it lol
I'll probably take you up on that Jeff...I'll let ya know

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So here's the time lapse...and yeah I'm a big guy, smaller than I used to be...like the Jeep I'm a work in progress as well lol
https://youtu.be/pasks9RR0mo

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I tell ya what that intake is a bitch to get out, it's still in there...from what I've read you basically have to lower the engine to get it out...ugh...
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I'll probably take you up on that Jeff...I'll let ya know

---------- Post added at 12:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 AM ----------

So here's the time lapse...and yeah I'm a big guy, smaller than I used to be...like the Jeep I'm a work in progress as well lol
https://youtu.be/pasks9RR0mo

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I tell ya what that intake is a bitch to get out, it's still in there...from what I've read you basically have to lower the engine to get it out...ugh...
Lol I've pulled that manifold out with it all together and left the strut bar in place in about 45-hr
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Re: Project "Rock Bottom" rebuild

What?!?!?! How?? Lol believe me I feel like an idiot ....it shouldn't be that damn hard but it's just not wanting to budge...it's sooo close but it just won't come out
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What?!?!?! How?? Lol believe me I feel like an idiot ....it shouldn't be that damn hard but it's just not wanting to budge...it's sooo close but it just won't come out
What's it catching on? Have you pulled the egr tube out? All the vacuum lines disconnected?

Oh be sure to remove the coolant temp sensor so you don't break it like I did the first time
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It's catching on the heads I suppose, I mean it's free it just won't make it over the front of the engine...
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It's catching on the heads I suppose, I mean it's free it just won't make it over the front of the engine...
I got you. Ready for a mind blow? Lol


Make sure everything is disconnected.

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Your gonna need some patience and a good pry bar for this next part....

Get it it lift up slightly and bring it as far forward as you can.

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You may need to work it some but you need to get it up as so. Once you do it will come right out.

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This is the end goal bro. These pics are from the last time I pulled the manifold when I did the port work. It was the second time I pulled it so I am pretty familiar how it comes out and goes back in lol. Install is the exact opposite. And easier too

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No shit....ok I'll give it a go tomorrow...Thanks a bunch...I was afraid to pry too hard on it...I thought had it at one point but it wouldn't budge...
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No shit....ok I'll give it a go tomorrow...Thanks a bunch...I was afraid to pry too hard on it...I thought had it at one point but it wouldn't budge...
Don't worry man, it's a pretty stout plastic so don't be afraid to get rough with it.
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