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Old 10-08-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: tranny oil

And this is what I pulled from the Amsoil site.. not trying to start a war but the shop I went to deals with Chrysler products all the time.. thanks for the valuable information but I'm not going to worry too much about it.

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APPLICATIONS
AMSOIL AMSOIL Synthetic Universal ATF is recommended for transmissions, hydraulics, power steering and other applications requiring any of the following specifications:

• GM DEXRON® III-H
• Ford MERCON® & MERCON V
• Chrysler ATF+4®
• Toyota Type T-III and T-IV
• Honda Z-1 (Not CVT)
• Diamond SP II & III (Mitsubishi/Hyundai/Kia)
• Mazda ATF-III, ATF-MV
• Subaru ATF
• Nissan Matic D, J & K
• Idemitsu K-17
• BMW LA2634
• LT 71141
• Audi G-052-025-A2 & G-052-162-A1
• Volvo 97340
• MB 236.1, 236.2, 236.5, 236.6, 236.7, 236.9 & 236.10
• JWS 3309
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• ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B & N402
• Voith 55.6335.XX (G607, G1363)
• ZF TE-ML 03D, 04D, 09, 14A, 14B, 14C, 16L, 17C
• Allison C-4, TES 389

*Not for use with CVT or Ford Type F applications.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:24 PM
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Re: tranny oil

I'd go for a certified oil to stay in my comfort zone but I do not see anything wrong with your logic. Other brands to indeed make ATF+4 oil but do not carry the certification because they elected not to pay to go through Chrysler's certification process.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:09 PM
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Re: tranny oil

By the way, does anyone know what happens if, lets say, you got a real stupid mechanic who puts in 9 quarts instead of the 7 for the tranny maintenance
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:17 PM
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Re: tranny oil

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By the way, does anyone know what happens if, lets say, you got a real stupid mechanic who puts in 9 quarts instead of the 7 for the tranny maintenance
KABOOM! j/k should be fine to my knowledge or you can have the 2qts drained
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:46 PM
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Re: tranny oil

Take it back and insist the idiot get it right. Too much ATF is just as bad as too little. Taken straight from the 05' WK shop manual:
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EFFECTS OF INCORRECT FLUID LEVEL

A low fluid level allows the pump to take in air along with the fluid. Air in the fluid will cause fluid pressures to be
low and develop slower than normal. If the transmission is overfilled, the gears churn the fluid into foam. This aerates
the fluid and causing the same conditions occurring with a low level. In either case, air bubbles cause fluid
overheating, oxidation, and varnish buildup which interferes with valve and clutch operation. Foaming also causes
fluid expansion which can result in fluid overflow from the transmission vent or fill tube. Fluid overflow can easily be
mistaken for a leak if inspection is not careful.
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Re: tranny oil

Thanks Joe, that's what I needed to know.

Taking it back for him to fix is not that simple over here in Kosovo. I had to have the oil shipped in by air from the states .... had a lapse of judgment and went to the place with too much oil and did not supervise .... will drain it then
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Re: tranny oil

I am going to change my tranny fluid very soon, Im sure it hasnt been changed and i have 61k. I plan on using Mobil 1 ATF+4 synthetic. I changed all the other fluids to Mobil 1 synthetic. For a full fluid change i think its 15 quarts, is this correct? Does anyone know of any threads dealing with changing transmission fluid, i have never done it but have been reading about it?
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Depends what transmission you have .... check out

http://wkjeeps.com/wk_maintenance.htm
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Re: tranny oil

thanks, i checked that out before, 14 quarts is so much oil. it will be pretty expensive
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: tranny oil

Yeah but that's only for a complete overhaul and I understand you need to take the tranny apart for that
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:05 PM
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Re: tranny oil

If all you re doing is dropping the pan and replacing the filter, the amt will be far less than 14qts. It is generally more like 2qts, check the fluid level and add more as needed. Checking the level isn't as easy as checking the engine oil, as the tranny needs to be warmed up to operating temps, you need to part the vehicle, run the shifter throught the gears and check the level with the engine running. I don't have access to any of my Jeep service manuals right now but will try to copy & paste the info from one later tonight.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:01 PM
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Re: tranny oil

Looks like I was wrong on the amt of atf to add after a filter change on the WK. You should be adding 5qts and then checking the level. It's only 12qts if a complete overhaul was done.

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TRANSMISSION FILL
To avoid overfilling transmission after a fluid change or overhaul, perform the following procedure:
1. Remove dipstick and insert clean funnel in transmission fill tube.

2. Add following initial quantity of MoparT ATF +4 to transmission:

a. If only fluid and filter were changed, add 10 pints (5 quarts) of ATF +4 to transmission.

b. If transmission was completely overhauled and the torque converter was replaced or drained, add 24 pints (12 quarts) of ATF +4 to transmission.

3. Check the transmission fluid (Refer to 21 - TRANSMISSION/AUTOMATIC - RFE/FLUID - STANDARD PROCEDURE) and adjust as required.
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The torque converter fills in both the P (PARK) and N (NEUTRAL) positions. Place the selector lever in P (PARK) to be sure that the fluid level check is accurate. The engine should be running at idle speed for at least one minute, with the vehicle on level ground. At normal operating temperature approximately 82 C. or 180 F.), the fluid level is correct if it is in the HOT region (cross-hatched area) on the oil level indicator. The fluid level will be
approximately at the upper COLD hole of the dipstick at 70° F fluid temperature.
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