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I'm not sure if it's possible, but have you looked into putting an 08+ 4.7 in? Wasn't there a significant difference? Good luck!!
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I'm not sure if it's possible, but have you looked into putting an 08+ 4.7 in? Wasn't there a significant difference? Good luck!!
Im not sure but I already picked up a motor that came off a 2005 Durango with 47,000 miles and its the same exact one so hopefully theres nothing wrong with it mechanically. Thanks for the advice tho.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:36 PM
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Im not sure but I already picked up a motor that came off a 2005 Durango with 47,000 miles and its the same exact one so hopefully theres nothing wrong with it mechanically. Thanks for the advice tho.
Did you buy it without having it looked at or checking it over yourself. The salvage yard/seller should have AT LEAST ran some compression tests as well as showed you readings for oil pressure when the motor is cold and up and hot. Those are the MAIN things so you know you didnt get a junk motor and all the seals are good etc. If any of that is bad you are looking at big $ to get her running so hopefully thats not the case.

Anyway, whatever you paid, (Im guessing $1500-$2000 at most!) Id take what $ is left and get some quotes to have it swapped in/programmed and ready to go, what would it cost to have you up and running? Id have dealers/reputable shops or whomever you know will do a good job quote you and then Id compare. Most places pending location will range from $55-$75/hour for labor and then you have to look around to see what an average estimate for a drop in is for that motor assuming everything else is ok. Just so you know you aren't getting ripped off. A project like this makes it easy for shops to tack on hours and time and miscellaneous labor to end up grabbing another few hundred-$1k bucks, been there done that, do your hw first time! Have a local/friendly/trustworthy who is a mechanic give you an estimate and then you can go off that

To help: I'll estimate an avg install for the 4.7 would run around 15-20 hours of labor (ill take 20 to be safe) at say $65/hour (avg-higher end) so thats $1300 in labor and then maybe another $200 in miscellaneous parts? They'll obviously need to remove the old one, check through everything, undo electronics and clean etc. Beyond that, not sure what you'd need new, possibly some motor mounts while its out? The motor you bought should have EVERYTHING ELSE you need pre-assembled so its just a drop in, hook up the crank to the TC and mount her down, then its on to some computer tuning etc. They may want to do plugs/filter/oil (good idea unless it was done by seller?) So $200 is fair guess. $1500 out the door Id guess is fair but this will vary pending rates and how good a shop is. They may go by book and that time rate is always pretty accurate, does give them some leeway though

Whatever is left from that (hopefully a small piece of change?) You could look at having a different cam swapped in during the install. Be aware that'll add some labor time and jack cost up a decent amount. Also intake/exhaust are always good cheap options to look at. Hope that gives some insight! Again, everything here was just some GENERAL INSIGHT based on averages and my personal experience. Hope you get everything runnign smoothly and in a timely matter, keep us posted
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Did you buy it without having it looked at or checking it over yourself. The salvage yard/seller should have AT LEAST ran some compression tests as well as showed you readings for oil pressure when the motor is cold and up and hot. Those are the MAIN things so you know you didnt get a junk motor and all the seals are good etc. If any of that is bad you are looking at big $ to get her running so hopefully thats not the case.

Anyway, whatever you paid, (Im guessing $1500-$2000 at most!) Id take what $ is left and get some quotes to have it swapped in/programmed and ready to go, what would it cost to have you up and running? Id have dealers/reputable shops or whomever you know will do a good job quote you and then Id compare. Most places pending location will range from $55-$75/hour for labor and then you have to look around to see what an average estimate for a drop in is for that motor assuming everything else is ok. Just so you know you aren't getting ripped off. A project like this makes it easy for shops to tack on hours and time and miscellaneous labor to end up grabbing another few hundred-$1k bucks, been there done that, do your hw first time! Have a local/friendly/trustworthy who is a mechanic give you an estimate and then you can go off that

To help: I'll estimate an avg install for the 4.7 would run around 15-20 hours of labor (ill take 20 to be safe) at say $65/hour (avg-higher end) so thats $1300 in labor and then maybe another $200 in miscellaneous parts? They'll obviously need to remove the old one, check through everything, undo electronics and clean etc. Beyond that, not sure what you'd need new, possibly some motor mounts while its out? The motor you bought should have EVERYTHING ELSE you need pre-assembled so its just a drop in, hook up the crank to the TC and mount her down, then its on to some computer tuning etc. They may want to do plugs/filter/oil (good idea unless it was done by seller?) So $200 is fair guess. $1500 out the door Id guess is fair but this will vary pending rates and how good a shop is. They may go by book and that time rate is always pretty accurate, does give them some leeway though

Whatever is left from that (hopefully a small piece of change?) You could look at having a different cam swapped in during the install. Be aware that'll add some labor time and jack cost up a decent amount. Also intake/exhaust are always good cheap options to look at. Hope that gives some insight! Again, everything here was just some GENERAL INSIGHT based on averages and my personal experience. Hope you get everything runnign smoothly and in a timely matter, keep us posted
I really appreciate all the info. The used motor i bought ran me $1500 and it has a 30 day warranty. It looks like its in good shape, no oil leaks anywhere and it doesnt look like it has been cleaned before. If it turns out to be bad, i can always take it back and get all my money back and start from the beginning. I have all the parts available to do the swap, the only thing im going to ask the mechanic to change is the plugs and coils. I think the shop is charging $1100 to do the swap so your estimate is pretty close. Im dropping the motor off in the morning so ill keep the thread updated once i hear from the shop. Thanks again for your insight!
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I really appreciate all the info. The used motor i bought ran me $1500 and it has a 30 day warranty. It looks like its in good shape, no oil leaks anywhere and it doesnt look like it has been cleaned before. If it turns out to be bad, i can always take it back and get all my money back and start from the beginning. I have all the parts available to do the swap, the only thing im going to ask the mechanic to change is the plugs and coils. I think the shop is charging $1100 to do the swap so your estimate is pretty close. Im dropping the motor off in the morning so ill keep the thread updated once i hear from the shop. Thanks again for your insight!
Not a problem! $1100 is very fair and Id say a good rate pending everything is done timely and the work is quality! So from that seems you have $1700 or so left after all said and done? With that extra money Id definitely look into some performance stuff or whatever tickles your fancy. On that motor cam is an option, not sure of who makes nice cam for the 4.7 BUT I know Scottina (Scott) could tell you as he did a lot fo work on his 4.7 and knows the ins/outs of it, id PM him for sure.

Also heres a link: http://www.jeepgarage.org/f6/4-7l-comp-cams-2082-post61070.html

Also Id certainly grab a Bwoody intake or something of similar quality. Gibson makes a nice exhaust but not necessarily the best quality/sounding. Nothing wrong but with your extra money, Borla, Magnaflow, Flowmaster offer what Id consider a little bit better options but you will pay little more.

Also a great thing you could do BEFORE the shop drops it in would be some headers but may be too late if its going in tomorrow! These would definitely net you some horsepower and awesome sound for a few hundred bucks!

Hope that gives you some ideas, again id pm Scott for this as he did a lot on his 4.7 and it sounds/run great, think he makes pretty nice power too!
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thanks again for all your advice, i got so many ideas on what i want to do with the extra money but at the same time i dont wanna blow it all just yet, i want to make sure everything is gonna run and operate as it should before i spend it all on mods. I was thinking about doing intake and exhaust for now since they are least expensive and its to late for headers and cams since i havent found anything yet and the shop will need any new parts asap as they will be working on it tomorrow.
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