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Old 09-28-2009, 08:02 AM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

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I've said it for the last year that 95% of peoples problems with installing HID's is the grounds. Anytime anyone pm's me or asks me about HID problems I immediately ask about their ground.
...And they immediately tell you that their grounds are fine, right?
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:55 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

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...And they immediately tell you that their grounds are fine, right?

yes....and when I ask them where they grounded them most of the time the ground is incorrect
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:22 PM
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Great movie man!

Matt & LipschitzWrath - If I could get a penny for every time I heard "The ground is good" followed by "oh, i guess it wasn't" =) I would say that about 75% of the problems I come across that are HID related definitely have to do with a bad ground.

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Ughhhhh, me again. Last friday I got in my car in the morning on the way to work and my drivers side low started flickering, actually shut off completely once so i turned the lights off then on and it turned back on. Not sure if you remember me from last spring, but had the same problem with the same side, until I spliced in another ground wire in addition to the existing ground wire. And yes, I sanded the inner fender down so good I prob took away half the metal trying to get a 'perfect" ground point.

Tomorrow after work I am going to completely remove that HID system, check everything out completely, then re-install it. Trust me, I hear everyone on the install mostly being incorrect and thats why its not working, but ive already removed this same one twice already and it finally worked properly after splicing another ground wire. And its so dam hard to diagnose it because when its in the driveway I swear it works great, and its only when driving the dam thing acts up. lol. But, that does lead me to think it has something to do with the voltage, either ground or power from the car while actually driving. My passenger has and still works 100%, no issues at all, so thats why I am stumped.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:29 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

Are you using two separate relays for each low-beam ballast or a two-in-one relay?

For the drivers side ground you should be using the same ground as the battery (bolt on the fender wall).

If you are in fact using two separate relays then check the power wire (batt) on the driver side low-beam relay (assuming the ground is indeed good).

If you are using a two-in-one relay and the ground on the drivers side is indeed good, then I'd say it's a ballast or bulb issue. If it was a power wire issue, then both bulbs would have issues.

I'm guessing bulb or ballast. To run a test you can swap the driver-side ballast and bulb assembly with the passenger-side ballast and bulb assembly and see if the problem now occurs on the passenger-side.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:45 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

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Are you using two separate relays for each low-beam ballast or a two-in-one relay?

For the drivers side ground you should be using the same ground as the battery (bolt on the fender wall).

If you are in fact using two separate relays then check the power wire (batt) on the driver side low-beam relay (assuming the ground is indeed good).

If you are using a two-in-one relay and the ground on the drivers side is indeed good, then I'd say it's a ballast or bulb issue. If it was a power wire issue, then both bulbs would have issues.

I'm guessing bulb or ballast. To run a test you can swap the driver-side ballast and bulb assembly with the passenger-side ballast and bulb assembly and see if the problem now occurs on the passenger-side.
Thanks for replying. I have two seperate relays and ballasts, basically one system on EACH side. I have the Xtreme 6500 kit, 2 bulbs, 2 ballasts, and 2 relays, one for each side.

Now i will def check the power wire, get out my volt meter. But like I said it seems to only show a fault when im driving, but when its in the driveway I cant get it to shut off or flicker for the life of me, tugging on every single wire and hitting everything. So leads me to think its not a loose connection, but in fact a voltage issue.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:52 PM
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Thanks for replying. I have two seperate relays and ballasts, basically one system on EACH side. I have the Xtreme 6500 kit, 2 bulbs, 2 ballasts, and 2 relays, one for each side.

Now i will def check the power wire, get out my volt meter. But like I said it seems to only show a fault when im driving, but when its in the driveway I cant get it to shut off or flicker for the life of me, tugging on every single wire and hitting everything. So leads me to think its not a loose connection, but in fact a voltage issue.
Ah ok, gotcha.

If all of your connections are solid and tight then it must be a ballast or bulb issue. Try swapping them as I suggested above and then see if the problem appears on the passenger-side. If it does, then you have narrowed it to the bulb or ballast. My guess would be the ballast. I'm not familiar with HID bulbs, but I would guess it either works or it doesn't (based on the filament).

If you want to quickly check to see if it is a bulb issue, you can swap those quickly and see. You may as well do this first before you do the ballasts. It's easy enough.
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

Swapping components left to right will help isolate the problem. The fact that the problem only occurs once the vehicle is moving though does make me think that the problem could be wiring related. Check to see if there are any signs of corrosion on the relay.

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Old 10-05-2009, 05:25 PM
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^^ and on the battery... I had an issue with that once before.
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Thanks for replying. I have two seperate relays and ballasts, basically one system on EACH side. I have the Xtreme 6500 kit, 2 bulbs, 2 ballasts, and 2 relays, one for each side.

Now i will def check the power wire, get out my volt meter. But like I said it seems to only show a fault when im driving, but when its in the driveway I cant get it to shut off or flicker for the life of me, tugging on every single wire and hitting everything. So leads me to think its not a loose connection, but in fact a voltage issue.
Swap your components and probe wires for sure, those are always things you should do first when you encounter problems.

However, the fact that it only occurs while driving makes me think it is computer-related. I had an issue with only one of my HID's malfunctioning, my driver's low-beam. Turned out that I needed "cancellers" for my setup. Haven't had the problem since.
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Swap your components and probe wires for sure, those are always things you should do first when you encounter problems.

However, the fact that it only occurs while driving makes me think it is computer-related. I had an issue with only one of my HID's malfunctioning, my driver's low-beam. Turned out that I needed "cancellers" for my setup. Haven't had the problem since.

Whats a canceller? I just googled HID flickering and I saw a forum where they say capacitors are needed with some installs. And i saw these as well, might be what your talking about.

http://www.stealthauto.com/Products/...__HID-CAP.aspx

But the light was working great all summer, im not sure if it has to do with the cold or something else. But it shut off on me twice this morning, goes from bright to dim, flickers, I saw a big flash going over a big bump, but also dims just driving flat. I havent gotten around to removing and switching things around yet, too dark when i get home. But i tug and bang on everything in there and nothing, not even a flash when its in my driveway. I even resanded the grounding wires, both of them I have installed.
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has to be a ground. Where is the grounds located?
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