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Old 09-19-2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

My dad put SRT badges on the side of his. They look really good. I thought about putting the HEMI badges in the same spot
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:48 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

i think mine is the way that it is in the last pic.

Kyle, you have to get that HEMI badge somewhere!
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

I luv my xenondepot hid lows. Im waiting for my led bulbs in the fogs to go then i'll be ordering the lows too. Is a relay needed for the fogs though, somewhere I heard its not needed and I can go with the other kit that doesnt include relays?

And with there being no more room I think i'll be pulling the bumper and redoing all the wiring nice and neat, right now everything is just shoved in there with the wires ziptied out of the way but it doesnt look professional.



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Old 09-20-2009, 03:01 PM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

Im thinking about getting the SRTDESIGN emblem for the rear on mine. Like the Dodges have that come without the 6.1 but have the look of it. I just want to be different, and I have yet to see a WK around me that looks like mine except an SRT8. I luv pulling next to stock WK's and see the people staring, I get alot of compliments from people. I mostly notice people checking out the rims, my buddy told me he knows its me driving down the street because how they stand right out.
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

Is there a reason not to run a ground wire from the HID's back to the battery... i mean you can't get a better ground than that...
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OH btw nice setup and thanks fo rthe ideas.
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ground it on the fender frame ground......
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

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I luv my xenondepot hid lows. Im waiting for my led bulbs in the fogs to go then i'll be ordering the lows too. Is a relay needed for the fogs though, somewhere I heard its not needed and I can go with the other kit that doesnt include relays?

And with there being no more room I think i'll be pulling the bumper and redoing all the wiring nice and neat, right now everything is just shoved in there with the wires ziptied out of the way but it doesnt look professional.



Correct, relays are NOT needed for fog lights. The wiring in the jeep already has the fog lights relayed, so it would be redundant.

I read you are having trouble getting some LED bulbs to work. I may be able to help. This lighting stuff is kinda my forte, so to speak. Let me know if I can be of any assistance.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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Re: XenonDepot Xtreme HID's

A relay harness is not "necessary" when upgrading the fogs to HID as you will not encounter any flickering or error codes. However, using a relay harness does ensure that the ballasts always receive a constant 12V. Your OEM fog light wiring is designed to run halogen bulbs which can dim if voltage drops below 12V. HIDs cannot dim and will flicker if they do not receive sufficient power. Flickering will reduce bulb/ballast life.

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A relay harness is not "necessary" when upgrading the fogs to HID as you will not encounter any flickering or error codes. However, using a relay harness does ensure that the ballasts always receive a constant 12V. Your OEM fog light wiring is designed to run halogen bulbs which can dim if voltage drops below 12V. HIDs cannot dim and will flicker if they do not receive sufficient power. Flickering will reduce bulb/ballast life.

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Not to be argumentative here, Steve, and I do not question your extensive knowledge of the field at all, but I disagree with your statement.

The Jeep already has a relay for the fog lights on-board. This relay pulls current directly from the battery. I fail to see how adding another relay would be of benefit at all. It would be redundant.

Now, I'll come clean with someting before I get called out for being a hypocrite. Yes, my fog lights ARE relayed. In fact, I have two relays for the fog lights - one for each light. First off, and the more important of my two criteria, was for looks and symmetry and consistency of the install. Since I upgraded my highs, lows, and fogs all at one time, it suited me better and looked better to add relays to my setup. However, I will admit that 99% of people would look at my install and the first word that would come outta their mouths is "overkill".

Check it out for yourself: My HID Install

Now, the second reason for relaying my fog lights the way I did was to provide a level of redundancy for safety purposes. If one of my fog light relays fails, the other light remains on because it is a completely seperate system. This is more applicable for the low-beams as they are your primary light source, but again, I was trying to maintain consistency during my install.

Of course, there is one thing you learn in engineering school that should be mentioned here. By introducing more components into the system, you are introducing the probability of failure. Goes back to the old adage 'KISS - keep it simple, stupid'. Translation: you can't have failure if there isn't a component there to fail. The jeep had a relay onboard and I added two more. I now have 3 relays just for my fog lights that can now fail.

Just my $0.02...
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LipschitzWrath - So you're saying that the OEM fog wiring has a direct lead right to the battery?
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LipschitzWrath - So you're saying that the OEM fog wiring has a direct lead right to the battery?
Precisely. Check this site: http://www.wkjeeps.com/wk_fuses.htm

Look at the integrated power module. There is a fused output from the battery AND a relay for the front fog lamps. I had a '98 grand cherokee that was the same way.
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