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Old 12-30-2009, 11:16 PM
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

Found this site selling awesome leds. Trying to order but I think they only sell in bulk. They carry insanely bright led chips.

http://www.kingbrightusa.com/product...1-9090QB11ZC/3
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

would these bulbs work better for the climate control panel then the others shown earlier in the thread?
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:55 PM
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

^^^ So far from my research I think the smd (surface mount diode) leds would make the climate control brighter. I have been reading up on leds and there is alot to know and understand, like they perform brighter when cooler, the rated viewing angles need to be taken into account when picking a "brighter" led. I think thats why smd chips appear brighter because the viewing angle is greater than the regular leds.

Im still trying to understand all the things written on this site about leds. There's some good links on the page.
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

Timmy jsut keep doing what your doing and let us know ill def be doing this when i get back from my deployment
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

Here's the thing with those smd type leds or any surface mount chip, the soldering is extremely hard to do with a regular soldering gun. Im now researching reflow soldering, which is basically putting a small dab of solder paste on the board, lay the chip/led leads in the solder paste and heat it up with hot air so the solder gets sucked onto the contact making it perfect. This is now the direction im going in.

These are the led chips I will be trying.
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

Wanted to share this informative read I just came across. I am awaiting my blue smd leds to arrive and get to work. With this read im confident all the existing leds in the WK can be swapped out easy enough. Reading this I realized the "compass/display" below the speedo can actually be changed from green to whatever leds you want. I thought it was all part of an electronic board but its actually back light. sweet....

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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

I'm glad my site could help you. Hand soldering SMDs is actually very easy as long as you use a resin pen to clean all surfaces that are to be soldered. This allows the solder to flow quicker so less heat is transferred to the SMD. Use a decent soldering gun too.
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

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I'm glad my site could help you. Hand soldering SMDs is actually very easy as long as you use a resin pen to clean all surfaces that are to be soldered. This allows the solder to flow quicker so less heat is transferred to the SMD. Use a decent soldering gun too.

That site was great with alot of usefull info and pictures. It made me very motivated knowing I can swap out all my stock leds with different colors, I want all blue instead of the green in there now. How did you know I went on there? I see this is your first post.

I am getting pretty decent at soldering with my pocket type pen butane torch/soldering iron. But those chips are so small it still turns out sloppy. I researching reflow soldering, and going to try it using the soldering paste. I found a thread showing how to convert a desoldering suction tool into blowing hot air with a fine tip.
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

Google sends me an email every few days letting me know where links to my site have been posted. Easier than looking at the logs to see where people come from.

Well, if weird smart car owners can follow this info then you should have no problem.

Sloppy soldering isn't necessarily a problem, mine started of really bad and so far I have only had 1 not work due to my soldering and I have soldered at least 400 SMDs now. The important part is a good solder gun, clean and resined contacts and a decent solder. The 0805 LEDs (shown in the link) are only 2mm long, the tip of my soldering iron is bigger than that but I've had no problems at all with those (apart from actually handling them).

You can solder SMD multipin chips by hand too. Just apply solder to all the pins, don't worry about bridging the pins. Once they are all soldered down, use solder wick and your soldering gun. The solder wick removes all the bridges.
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

^^^ So far I have never used resin but realizing I should. From what im understanding, the resin will clean the contacts and make the solder get "sucked" onto them correct? Like I said, im very new to soldering electrical boards, i've done plenty of copper pipe soldering work with a blow torch but working with such small parts is new. I tried the regular type led's to replace the stock regular bulbs in my car gauges, until I realized the stock led's are so dam small. Anyways, im actually glad you were able to see i went on your informative site so I can bug you for info and tips now. You def have a great write-up and helped me out alot already. You should post that page on here, on how to swap out stock led's. I know Hamze from this site was wondering how to do this mod when he pulled apart his door controls and saw the small led's.

Where do you order your led's from, any specific site you recommend that are good and cheap?

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Hope you dont mind, but I made a new thread with your sites link on it. I think the information on it is fantastic.
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Re: Installed LEDs in Heater Control/Buttons

Yes, using resin is important, it cleans the contacts and increases the capillary action on the solder so it gets sucked between the SMD and the contact quicker and therefore reducing the heat transfer.

I'm not sure how much I can help you with the best place to get PLCC-2 LEDs because I'm a Limey and not a Yanky so the places I buy from are about 3000 miles away from you. I get mine from www.rapidonline.com which is a UK company. I tried loads of suppliers and theirs was the best quality. I have bought some real bad ones from Ebay sellers so if you do look on there, search for Osram PLCC-2 as they are very good quality so should be OK as long as you don't get sold fakes.

You could try RS Components too but you'll find plenty of resellers if you search for Osram or Kingbright plcc-2.

Obviously having no knowledge of your vehicles means I don't know what LEDs it requires. If they aren't PLCC-2 or PLCC-4 then if you can show me what they look like and the size using digital callipers I might be able to work out what type they are.

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