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Old 03-05-2011, 07:06 AM
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Re: My build

dude you rock!!! i have been trying to find a good place to put the Audio Control EQX processor that i will be using in my install. its basically a 13 band eq about the size of your imprint. the problem is it is a trunk mount item, but i wanted it up front for easy adjustments. I searched all over for a good spot to mount it and bam!!! you post the pic of your imprint in the steering wheel pan. i will be measuring the space in mine to make sure it will fit there. anyway just letting you know i will be stealing your idea. this is a important lesson. post pics of everything you do in a install, even if you dont think it is relevant, because you never know what pic will help someone else with a idea they need.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:32 AM
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well dont worry about me stealing your idea. apparently they had a redesign on the 08-10 model this blows ass chunks!!!

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Old 03-05-2011, 03:32 PM
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I wonder why they did that?
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:03 PM
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I sure don't know, but it messed me up real good. i was so excited when i seen your pic of the imprint, then the jeep engineers stuck it to me. anyway i will just search for another location. but great job on your build.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:51 PM
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Thanks man. Words cannot not describe how bad ass this thing sounds and I havent even tuned it yet. For example, you know youve got a pretty decent sound system speakers when you can hear a pianist stepping on the pedals of a piano... its on an entirely different level when you can hear the friction between a thumb and a acoustic guitar!!!!

Ive never heard Nelly Furtado's "One Trick Pony" as well as it sounds on my setup. Anything Michael and Janet Jackson screams on my system. I dont know why but Michael and Janet Jackson albums have some of the best recording Ive ever known, Sony didnt dick around with them at all! LOL)

I tried a little Usher which was pleasing. Jimmy Buffet and the Coral Reefers totally rock the doors off that Jeep.

I played the DMB Live at Central Park album and when the song "Cortez the Killer" with Warren Haynes came on I closed my eyes and it sounded like I was REALLY there.

The only gripe I have with the system so far which really isnt its fault is that its too easy to listen to it at full blast. Im finding myself to have the volume 3/4's the way up most of the time. Im going to go deaf soon.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:07 PM
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Thanks man. Words cannot not describe how bad ass this thing sounds and I havent even tuned it yet. For example, you know youve got a pretty decent sound system speakers when you can hear a pianist stepping on the pedals of a piano... its on an entirely different level when you can hear the friction between a thumb and a acoustic guitar!!!!

Ive never heard Nelly Furtado's "One Trick Pony" as well as it sounds on my setup. Anything Michael and Janet Jackson screams on my system. I dont know why but Michael and Janet Jackson albums have some of the best recording Ive ever known, Sony didnt dick around with them at all! LOL)

I tried a little Usher which was pleasing. Jimmy Buffet and the Coral Reefers totally rock the doors off that Jeep.

I played the DMB Live at Central Park album and when the song "Cortez the Killer" with Warren Haynes came on I closed my eyes and it sounded like I was REALLY there.

The only gripe I have with the system so far which really isnt its fault is that its too easy to listen to it at full blast. Im finding myself to have the volume 3/4's the way up most of the time. Im going to go deaf soon.


Glad to hear you like it! Now, how much of that would you have to say is because of the speakers? Sure you would think that they are the entire reason or many would think that, but I know the quality of the wiring and the cables as well as the HU matter as well so would you care to break down how and what you think is what? Is everything as you expected, any qualms with any fo the stuff or is anything better than youd read about or though before hand?

Im really thinking about getting this Eclipse 3 way set you got and eliminating my front 3.5" speakers all together as this 3 way setup properly imaged will be plenty and hopefully sound better than what I have now.

Also about that Alpine processor, how exactly does it work? I read up on it and all but was under the impression it only works with the Alpine HU's? Does this thing stay hooked into the system and changes frequencies etc live on the fly or is this on of those things where you can plug it in and have it setup your HU for music you like and then remove it from the system? Not quite sure exactly how/what it does for you?

Without an alpine HU what options are out there besides regular processors you think that aren't going to break the bank because anything Ie seen that looked decent was well over $500 and everything under that seemed like crap, worse than what my Eclipse deck offers. So Im kinda stuck in the tuning department, nay insight would be sweet! Thanks in advance man, look forward to the videos!
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:47 PM
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The Eclipse set is well worth the price. But Im going to warn you about them. You MUST have a seriously powerful amp to push them. They are inefficient and hungry as hell. If you dont have an amp that is CEA certified to push 100w rms youll be wasting your time.

I was in the same boat in regards to headunits and processors and all that stuff. The Alpine CDA-117 by far for the money is the best bet. They have another one with a Burr Brown 24bit processor as well with a little screen to show ipod artwork and more detailed info but lacks a cd player.

The IMPRINT system stays wired at all times and the RCA leads that go to the amps acutally come from it instead of the radio. Alpine uses something called 'Ai Net' which is a way to interconnect different systems like bluetooth, cd changer, equalizers, AUX jacks, and in this case the IMPRINT system. You can daisy chain them too!

IMPRINT tunes your vehicle initially once. You sit a mic that you are supplied in the Alpine tuning kit (sold separately) on a tripod and move it around as the software you are given for your computer tells you to. What it essentially does is uses the speakers and shoots out these little blips of sound to do perfect sound correction and flatten the curve as much as possible to give you the best audiophile sound. It will do this for the subs as well. After the tune is complete you will be able to choose a reference curve (which I will be doing) if you like.

Soundman Car Audio shows you the jist of it in this video though he kinda did a poor job of it. You are supposed to have all of your doors and windows closed and nobody in it(Ill have my sunroof cracked just a pinch to let the USB cable through). He uses the cd-less Alpine I mentioned above. FTR Soundman is funny as hell and has an internet show about the day and the life of car audio installers.

Alpine explains it in . They talk about some older products like the famous Alpine 9887. The CDA 117 is the updated version and the tuning kit is a little more simplified.

Before you run off and cut your doors up get with me, I have some important things to tell you and watch out for. Ill even give you my number to call in a PM.


In regards to what is making the sound clean? Well, everything working together. The Alpine unit connects to an ipod, completly bipasses the ipods internal sound settings and churns it through its own 24bit sound processor. It then send the info to the IMPRINT unit and from there shoot out 4v pre outs to the Boston Amp I have installed. The speakers receive very clean, true sound and reproduce them. These speakers are an EXCELLENT sound stage. I suggest if you buy them and install them, set the crossover jump to -3db for the tweeter. Ive read complaints that they are 'too bright', act like 'super tweeters' etc. Its because people have the jumper on 0db or +3db. Some have complained that the tweeter will cut out after listening to it too long at loud levels. I baulk at this because I know they are under powering them and or not properly using them. IMO, these tweets are almost as warm as soft domes. Also, these are definitely meant for use with a sub or youll be disappointed. You were right, its what I did exactly. The dash speakers make a poor oundstage and this is exactly why I did this.

Sonicelectronix has only the 5 1/4 model left for like $150.00... go get em while they are hot! Woofersetc.com has the 6.5 model but at a big mark up.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:09 PM
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well dont worry about me stealing your idea. apparently they had a redesign on the 08-10 model this blows ass chunks!!!

What if you were to remove that plastic crap around the steering column? It looks useless and would free up a lot of room!
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:17 PM
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na i thought of that already there is just more stuff right behind that. and there is nowhere to mount it to because if you look at the pan it is cut and goes around the steering column. its cool though, ill do something else.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:11 PM
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Just mount that sum'bitch on the inside wall of your center console facing up towards you.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:49 PM
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How about mounting it on the panel that's behind the glove box, above the passengers feet? You can drop the panel and pull it out to tune it if needed.
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well the center console wont work, the EQX is to big.yea yea i know i thought it was the same size as your imprint, but i was wrong. then i thought maybe the glove box but that doesnt work either, so i tried the panel under the glove box, but it has screws holding it up. so that really doesnt make it usable. here is a pic so you can see what im going to be working with. if i cant find a great place for it i might go another route.

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