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#1 ·
Well im in the market for some music for my XJ. So far i have a pioneer 6500 dvd, pioneer 5 1/4 speakers in the front n Kicker 6 1/2 in the roof. The kickers finally kicked and the only beats im gettin r from the pio's. I have a box but its way too big for what i need, that and its a 1600w sub in a blown box pushed by a 1000w amp. Im lookin to do all one brand. Im either goin JL Audio components in the front wit full range in the rear and a JL Audio 8"sub inside and xj pod along with JL amps and a Kenwood radio. That or go all Alpine with an Alpine Type S 10" in a sub enclosure, speakers, and Alpine V-power amps and an Alpine head unit. Not really sure what route to take. Any help from you guys.
 
#2 ·
i owned a 12" alpine type s for awhile and a jl audio w3v3. The only thing the alpine is good for is rap. It was kind of loud but no quality to the sound of it. The jl audio sub's sq is really, really good compared but not quite as loud. When buying jl audio you are mainly getting SQ.
 
#4 ·
All of this subjectivity is really dependent on the enclosure these woofers were housed in and what settings were used on the amp (and headunit).

An enclosure is the absolute most important thing for a speaker to sound right. I can make a $50 woofer sound better than a $500 woofer simply with the proper enclosure.

You really can't blanket statement a company as being more geared towards SQ or this or that. As I said before, it solely depends on how the equipment is installed and tuned.

(Don't think I'm picking on you - just getting the info out there) :)
 
#3 ·
Between the two I'd go JL, but if you're willing to expand your options I wouldn't opt for either. Much better equipment can be had for less, but that means you'll likely have to incorporate more than one brand.

What exactly are your goals? What are you expecting to get from a stereo upgrade? What would you like to gain?
 
#6 ·
i listen to alot of rock and house music, and rap of course but mostly rock and house. i used to do systems for a livin but i got out of the game about 5 yrs ago when i left my old job to do security.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Ah, gotcha. I'd imagine something like a nice set of components up front, rears if you so choose (though getting anything nice would be a waste), either a 5-channel amp or a 4 channel + mono, and a nice compact sub system.

If you wanted to go Alpine, you could do their Type-X components, Type-S coaxials, PDX-5 amplifier, and the Type-R 10" sub woofer. That'd be a pretty rockin' stereo. The JL equivalent will cost more than twice as much and probably not sound any better.

yea your right matt. You can make a 500 sub sound like crap if its not put in the proper box and installed correctly. Im just saying the alpine type s sound quality cant compare to the jl audio w3v3. I had both put in the boxes that were recommended for them (space, sealed or ported etc). As soon as I had the jl audio put in a sealed box i noticed a huge improvment in the sq. I later put it in a box by jl audio that was the correct dimensions for it and ported with supposedly makes the w3v3 subs sound the best. It was a slight improvement in the loudless and a slight different tone.
Then in that case, I see value in your thoughts about the woofers :) A lot of times people just throw them in random pre-fabs and are disappointed when they don't get what they expect. I prematurely made that assumption. :thumbsup:
 
#7 ·
yea your right matt. You can make a 500 sub sound like crap if its not put in the proper box and installed correctly. Im just saying the alpine type s sound quality cant compare to the jl audio w3v3. I had both put in the boxes that were recommended for them (space, sealed or ported etc). As soon as I had the jl audio put in a sealed box i noticed a huge improvment in the sq. I later put it in a box by jl audio that was the correct dimensions for it and ported with supposedly makes the w3v3 subs sound the best. It was a slight improvement in the loudless and a slight different tone.
 
#13 ·
money isnt a concern since i still have my connections in the business, mario know the installe that i used to work with and he knows how i get with systems. if i had it my way, i would do image dynamic components, beyma speakers for the rears and if i can still find the cerwin vega flat pistons i would do just one with either zappco or hifonics amps to do the deed, and maybe a higher amp alternator and 2 batts.
 
#16 ·
In that case, I'd go with the SPX17-PRO components. The mids are Scan-Speak derived (very high class speaker manufacturer) and the tweeters are basically Vifa ring radiators (also a very good raw driver manufacturer). That's a very good passive component set. Also, I think you can bi-amp the set (seperate channel for the tweet and mid on the crossover), so in that case you'll want 4 channels of amplification just for the comp set (PDX150.4). I'd get whatever you want for the rears and run them off head unit power. For as efficient as they are, you'd hardly notice a difference between amplified power and deck power (given their location). The Type-X woofers perform very well in small sealed enclosures (IIRC), so a pair of 10's and a PDX.1000 would do nicely.
 
#18 ·
I've never heard them. Actually I think I did a few years back, but I can't recall.

I've read mostly good reviews about them though.

Honestly, I've never been very picky about sub woofers. They cover SO LITTLE of the frequency spectrum that my time and money is better spent on the front stage. Damn near any decent woofer in the correct enclosure will satisfy most.
 
#20 ·
well as of now ill really only doin a 4ch amp and a 2ch for the rear since im only doin a single sub. im not really into not havein space and really like the fact that i can have the stroller and all the grocerys in the rear. im not really lookin for more then 1 sub.
 
#22 ·
No sub amp?

I'd go with a 4-channel for the front stage and a single channel mono amp for the sub. Trust me, the rears don't need amplified power.
ehh, the setup i was goin for was space savin so the amps were goin under the rear seat and the sub i was really lookin for was an 8" but alpine doesnt make a sub that small so i was gonna go with a 10" type s
 
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