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Re: Sub Enclosure-To Dampen or not to Dampen?

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Negative. Im not calling you out, but what leads you to believe you get better sound? The cone isnt on the inside, its on the outside. Therefore, when the bass hits, the cone is moving on the OUTSIDE, not the inside. Thats why damping material is used between the enclosure and the subwoofer itself so it doesnt rattle off the carpet or MDF.
Most use carpet as a seal between the basket and baffle, just FYI.
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Re: Sub Enclosure-To Dampen or not to Dampen?

yeah i will bow out of this thread silently
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I agree. But were we talking about invert mounting? 3/4'' MDF is plenty thick!
I was simply pointing out that your entire statement was incorrect. Cone direction is irrelevant. Bass (i.e. sound wave) doesn't only come from one side of the cone. Carpet is perfectly fine for a seal.
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Most use carpet as a seal between the basket and baffle, just FYI.
I look at carpet as just something to wrap a box in. To me, carpet doesnt do enough. I use weatherstrip between the sub and enclosure for a tight seal!
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:00 PM
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I look at carpet as just something to wrap a box in. To me, carpet doesnt do enough. I use weatherstrip between the sub and enclosure for a tight seal!
Plenty of guys who compete in sound quality events use carpet as a seal. If they can rope in trophies with their carpet sealed enclosures, then surely it's good enough for me.
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Re: Sub Enclosure-To Dampen or not to Dampen?

To each their own! But good information nonetheless
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To each their own! But good information nonetheless
Very true. For what it's worth, I have weatherstripping as my seal too.
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Haha! Hey Good build man! How do you like the 880? Ive got a beautiful OG Eclipse 55060 that I love.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:14 PM
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Haha! Hey Good build man! How do you like the 880? Ive got a beautiful OG Eclipse 55060 that I love.
Thanks! I'm actually in the process of re-building, again.

I loved the 880 when I had it, great deck. Unfortunately, I need a new deck that doesn't have a high pass limit - the 880 has a 1,250hz limit It's too bad. A new 800PRS would have gone well with the WK control panel. Nice Eclipse deck! OG for sure. My first deck was an Eclipse 5030 or something. Nice, strong pre-outs. I bought the new 7200 mkII, but the place I bought it from never charged my card and never shipped it... oh well.
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Re: Sub Enclosure-To Dampen or not to Dampen?

Oh well, I added egg crate foam to all the inside faces, and simple pine bracing on all inside corners. I actually got the idea from DIY. There were alot of threads on why it can be benificial. Some people use Dex pads(I think its called something like that) or just simple foam matress bed padding from walmart. I snatched a bunch of poly fill from a job site today im going to line the box with also. And I did read on DIY that ADDING polyfill will make the sub feel its in a bigger enclosure. And the egg crate foam will cancel the waves hitting the back of the box from going back to the back side of the subwoofer cone, helping with less distortion. Maybe i didnt word my question right for my reasoning for installing the egg crate foam and why I called it "deadening" it, its not to because my box is rattling or vibrating but for the sound waves inside of it. Dont alot of JL and other brands of sub boxes sold with subs installed come with poly fill already in it? In alot of threads I read on making fiberglass enclosures they say to fill it with poly fill also. I take a pic of my work so far, looks cool at least. Looks like a mini sound recording studio in the enclosure now.

And thats why i asked the question in the first place, because im no expert, but from my research so far there are comments made that are inccorect in some peoples posts above. Please, if your just making stuff up keep it to yourself, haha.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:18 PM
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Oh well, I added egg crate foam to all the inside faces, and simple pine bracing on all inside corners. I actually got the idea from DIY. There were alot of threads on why it can be benificial. Some people use Dex pads(I think its called something like that) or just simple foam matress bed padding from walmart. I snatched a bunch of poly fill from a job site today im going to line the box with also. And I did read on DIY that ADDING polyfill will make the sub feel its in a bigger enclosure. And the egg crate foam will cancel the waves hitting the back of the box from going back to the back side of the subwoofer cone, helping with less distortion. Maybe i didnt word my question right for my reasoning for installing the egg crate foam and why I called it "deadening" it, its not to because my box is rattling or vibrating but for the sound waves inside of it. Dont alot of JL and other brands of sub boxes sold with subs installed come with poly fill already in it? In alot of threads I read on making fiberglass enclosures they say to fill it with poly fill also. I take a pic of my work so far, looks cool at least. Looks like a mini sound recording studio in the enclosure now.

And thats why i asked the question in the first place, because im no expert, but from my research so far there are comments made that are inccorect in some peoples posts above. Please, if your just making stuff up keep it to yourself, haha.
Egg crate foam and poly fill are different than deadner (as you know), so that's why I was against the deadner. Egg crate foam is perfectly good for the inside on the enclosure as well as poly fill.

Toss up some pics of the progress Timmy!

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Re: Sub Enclosure-To Dampen or not to Dampen?

Here's my box so far. It started as just something I threw together to get my sub in the car and planned on trying a fiberglass stealth type enclosure but no time for that now. Im just goofing off trying different things with this box now.









I didnt even plan on keeping this box long, thats why its just square. To make the carpet look decent I think i might tack on some 1"x1" pieces along the outside edges on the sides to tuck the carpet edges into. Or carpet the front, top, back, and bottom then glue on two more sections of mdf already carpet to the sides, to hide the carpets edges. I just realized the back of the box is 3/4" from the back of the sub, which has a vent hole for the air, so I think I have to cut out the egg crate in the back about a 1.5" circle for the air to vent from the sub.
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