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Old 12-04-2009, 04:08 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

new reciprocating saws actually can rotate so you can cut circles!!! matt i'm sure you saw that at sears!
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:39 PM
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new reciprocating saws actually can rotate so you can cut circles!!! matt i'm sure you saw that at sears!
I saw them, and wanted to get out before I spent any more money, lol.

Will a reciprocating saw cut a circle, sure, but it's not the right tool for the job. And it won't be a perfect circle.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:43 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

took me a while to read all the nice and informative posts but amazing freaking thread ... when I do my stereo build one of these days will most definitely consult with you Matt and all the others who have posted on here ... thanks for such a great write up

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Old 12-04-2009, 07:53 PM
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took me a while to read all the nice and informative posts but amazing freaking thread ... when I do my stereo build one of these days will most definitely consult with you Matt and all the others who have posted on here ... thanks for such a great write up
Good deal. Feel free to post up a question or shoot me a PM anytime Omar.

I've got some good ideas brewing for my current stereo build

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Old 12-04-2009, 09:14 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

I wont be trying fiberglass for awhile now with all I have going on with work and moving, so its put off till spring. Now that its dark out around here at 4:30pm and the temps are dropping outside work isnt that fun anymore. I wish I had a garage to work in. But I can say after I do make my first fiberglass "stealth box" for my WK I will be selling them on this site. If I have enough people interested in it now I would even get my ass in gear and do one now. For what JL Audio sells them for I think I can crank them out in my spare time for 2/3rds to 1/2 the price.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:21 PM
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I wont be trying fiberglass for awhile now with all I have going on with work and moving, so its put off till spring. Now that its dark out around here at 4:30pm and the temps are dropping outside work isnt that fun anymore. I wish I had a garage to work in. But I can say after I do make my first fiberglass "stealth box" for my WK I will be selling them on this site. If I have enough people interested in it now I would even get my ass in gear and do one now. For what JL Audio sells them for I think I can crank them out in my spare time for 2/3rds to 1/2 the price.
If done right, the materials are going to run $150 minimum. Probably closer to $175 though. Then you gotta factor in around 10-12 working hours, not to mention the curing time for the resin. (Also an overnight of the initial mold in your trunk - each time you make a new one). Then you gotta factor in shipping. I've gotta think $50 minimum for CONUS.

Unless you are making a mold (that totally changes things), then I'd rethink the production and selling of enclosures.
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:56 PM
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If done right, the materials are going to run $150 minimum. Probably closer to $175 though. Then you gotta factor in around 10-12 working hours, not to mention the curing time for the resin. (Also an overnight of the initial mold in your trunk - each time you make a new one). Then you gotta factor in shipping. I've gotta think $50 minimum for CONUS.

Unless you are making a mold (that totally changes things), then I'd rethink the production and selling of enclosures.

The mold can easily be made from fiberglass, making a mold of the first enclosure made. Simple.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:41 PM
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:27 PM
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The mold can easily be made from fiberglass, making a mold of the first enclosure made. Simple.

Yeah, that'd be the way to do it. It's still going to cost a lot though. Here's a quick parts list - I'm sure I haven't included everything.

Resin - $40
Mat/cloth - $30
Wood - $5
Brushes - $10
Roller - $10
Mixing tubs - $5
Dowels - $5
Nylon rope - $5
Hardware - $10
Grill cloth/fleece - $8
Carpet - $10
Tape - $10
Drop cloth - $5
Bondo - $10
Liquid nails - $2
Latex gloves - $5
Pam - $2
Shipping on some things (ballpark) - $20

One-time buys
Respirator - $40
Gown - $5

Call it $175
Shipping - $50 (min)
10 hours x $20/hr = $200

Total = $425 (without driver)



It's really going to come down to how much money you are willing to make for your time. Materials and shipping prices aren't going to change. If you're willing to accept $10/hr, that drops the rough total a hundred bucks. But at that point you'll need to decide if slave work is really worth 10 bucks an hour.


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Old 12-06-2009, 06:16 PM
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For me most of those items above are available free to me like brushes, rollers, rope, dowels, Liquid Nails, drop cloth, painters and duct tape, mixing tubs, wood. And I already have a nice double canister respirator. I'd only need to stock up on the resin and fiberglass mat, fleece and carpet.

Was just thinking if i do end up making a fiberglass enclosure that came out good enough I could make more in my spare time if people ever wanted. Have to see how things go.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:54 PM
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For me most of those items above are available free to me like brushes, rollers, rope, dowels, Liquid Nails, drop cloth, painters and duct tape, mixing tubs, wood. And I already have a nice double canister respirator. I'd only need to stock up on the resin and fiberglass mat, fleece and carpet.
That's good 'cause all of those little things really add up. And I'm sure you could save a good deal on shipping if you order a decent amount. (for the resin and mat/cloth)

What kind of respirator do you have? I was looking at a 3M for ~$30, but there's a Binks that US Composites carries for $40 and it would be shipped with the rest of my order. I'm guessing most half-masks are pretty much the same.

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Was just thinking if i do end up making a fiberglass enclosure that came out good enough I could make more in my spare time if people ever wanted. Have to see how things go.
Yeah for sure. I have no doubt that there would be a decent demand for them (here and on other sites).
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The respirator I have my work got me and I had to get trained on it for a project my company was working on. I had to have a physical and a mask fitting at a medical center to get approved. The project was dealing with waterproofing of concrete walls underground in a confined space, which I wasnt working on but they wanted me certified in case I needed to ever fill in there.

The respirator is an MSA that fits over the mouth and nose. The canisters have the numbers GME-P100 on them. I know its a heavey duty type since all this work I had to go thru to get certified on it. My office has an account with Grainger, not sure if theres ones near you but its basically a store that sells anything construction related like safety gear to power tools to hardware. Its a Homedepot with alot more products minus the wood and lighting section. Lol
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