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Old 11-27-2009, 10:42 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Did anyone ever replicate this box but incorporate a 12'' driver into it, and still keeping it under the cargo shade and behind the cargo tray for amp access? If so, do you have the dimensions?
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:38 AM
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Did anyone ever replicate this box but incorporate a 12'' driver into it, and still keeping it under the cargo shade and behind the cargo tray for amp access? If so, do you have the dimensions?
I'm thinking about going this route Chris.

Two reasons; 1) to be able to hide the enclosure under the cargo shade. Security is important. I don't want to even risk the chance of dealing with all the hassle of a break-in. 2) playing with dimensions and trying to incorporate the depth of the sub woofer I have, it might not be easy to still have easy access to the cargo tray if I go with the fiberglass one in the quarter panel.

Still pondering, but just thought I'd let ya know I may explore this in the near future. Hell, I may even do it, just to have a second enclosure to play with.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:33 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Im still trying to figure out all this air space and such, if I get a 12 CVR, or anything else for that matter.. I know I would have to make the box deeper for the bigger mounting depth correct? My main concern is, that if I make the box deeper, will that add or take away too much air space?
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:36 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

I guess the first thing to do would be to pick the sub / amp combo I will go with for sure, and then change the box size around the sub's specs?

What program do you use or how can one calculate the air space of a box and all that good stuff anyhow Matt?
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Old 11-28-2009, 02:12 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

With my enclosure for the 10" sub I have the cargo shade just sits on the top of the box which is 12" high, so I dont think it would fit properly with a 12" sub, unless you slant the front of the enclosure so the height is 12".

But with my tinted windows you really cant see in the back anyways.
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Im still trying to figure out all this air space and such, if I get a 12 CVR, or anything else for that matter.. I know I would have to make the box deeper for the bigger mounting depth correct? My main concern is, that if I make the box deeper, will that add or take away too much air space?
Correct, most 12" drivers will need more mounting depth that what this enclosure can offer. Air space will be entirely dependent on the sub woofer that it houses and what sort of frequency response you desire.

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I guess the first thing to do would be to pick the sub / amp combo I will go with for sure, and then change the box size around the sub's specs?

What program do you use or how can one calculate the air space of a box and all that good stuff anyhow Matt?
Yeah. It's good to know roughly how much space you have to work with that way you can sift through the masses and begin to narrow your search. But of course, final enclosure specs will really need to be calculated once the sub woofer is selected.

For modeling sub woofer response in enclosures I use WinISD Beta. Search it in Google, it's a free download. From there you'll want to plug in the t/s parameters of a specific driver (be sure the measurement units are correct) and WinISD will plot the perfect/ideal enclosure for you. From there you can toy around with different enclosure sizes and vent tuning frequencies.

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With my enclosure for the 10" sub I have the cargo shade just sits on the top of the box which is 12" high, so I dont think it would fit properly with a 12" sub, unless you slant the front of the enclosure so the height is 12".

But with my tinted windows you really cant see in the back anyways.
Yeah, the baffle for a 12" design would be that of the diameter of the driver to have it fit under the cargo shade. If can be done, but possibly at the cost of having to accomodate too much depth and delete the use of the cargo tray. This is the case with my sub driver, too deep. Fiberglass enclosure is back on, lol.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:38 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Ok so what was the conclusion of using (2) 10's instead of (1) 12 Matt? The box you designed will or will not work with 2 10'' cvr's? And if not, do you know of any 10's that will work with the box you made?
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:15 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

just use these chris 10'' pioneer shallow 1200 watt
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

i have 2 in my jeep with my custom box and there perfect
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:21 PM
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Ok so what was the conclusion of using (2) 10's instead of (1) 12 Matt? The box you designed will or will not work with 2 10'' cvr's? And if not, do you know of any 10's that will work with the box you made?

I guess im not following. You want to make the same exact box Matt made and find two subs that will work with it, that big box that goes along the whole rear of the cargo area in back of the rear seats? Every sub is different basically, almost, in that they all recommend different volume specs to operate. What it seems you need to do is first buy the subs you want, then figure out the enclosure dimensions going with either a sealed or ported type. It is not hard at all to figure out the enclosure dimensions, the subs should come with a spec sheet on the enclosure needed, which can be modified to whatever shape you want. I can say I have one JL 10W6v2 powered by a JL 500/1 amp and it is awesome. I previously had two JL 10W0's in my 94 GC, basically the same because the car is all open, and this single 10W6 hits harder and louder than the other two subs. I was looking into the JL 10W7's which I could easily afford but the enclosure size needed is too large, as I wanted a sub box I can unhook easy for when I do use the cargo area and have to fold down the seats, like I just did twice the past week moving some things.



Look at the size of the enclosure I have, so easy to move and use the cargo area. Why not buy a sub like this and not have a huge box?
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Old 11-28-2009, 05:26 PM
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Oh, and the false floor and sub box I made myself. The carpet I found matches pretty well to the car.
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Timmy you got me thinking now bro! My wife just came in and saw your picture and said she liked it cause she will still have her cargo room, lol.. And it does make sense, considering I just took a treadmill home the other day and needed the seats folded down and all that room.

As you can probably tell I have never made a box before and this would be my first one. What I guess I am still not understanding is this.. I know on the sub specs it tells you depth and the cubic volume of the "recommended" enclosure, what I want to know is how do you translate that into a wooden box!?

Im looking at the JL website right now and they made it very easy! For the 10w6 they say 0.625 cu. ft. -- and they are nice enough to give you this as well.. 14.5 in. x 12 in. x 10.25 in.

Say I buy a different sub, and all they give me is the cu. ft. ... how do I determine the actual dimensions of the box? I hope that made sense!
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