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Old 11-28-2009, 10:21 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Oh, and where did you buy that carpet from??
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:26 AM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

I bought the carpet at Walmart, in the car section next to the car floor mats. They had grey and black, I got the grey which matched almost perfect to my stock grey interior, and it was less than $9 a roll, one roll for my false floor and another roll for my sub box with plenty left over.

As far as making a sub enclosure, dont stress about it. They are very easy to make from 3/4" mdf and figuring out the dimensions of it from what sub or subs you buy is easy with google at your finger tips, and I can help you out with it too. Me, I made the exact box that JL recommended on the spec sheet that came with the sub, it has both for a sealed and ported enclosure.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:39 AM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Basically its all math. But when i first got my 10W6 I went on DIYmobile and got so much help on different sizes of enclosures. Guess what im trying to say is dont worry about it, whatever sub you go with you will def be able to find exact dimensions of the enclosure to build with a little research if its not already on that specific sub manufacturers web site.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:48 AM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

And my amps a hidden, under a false floor i made which im sure i have shown a thousand times before. I did get a GC for the cargo room and wanted to keep it, not lose it due to a stereo.





And to keep the sub enclosure from sliding around back there I screwed a simple eye hook into the back of it then have an S hook attached to the tie down on the back of the rear seat, got the idea from the Kicker upgrade package thing. To fit the hook in i have to have the rear seat tilted forward then giude the hook in while pushing back on the seat, so its on there tight and does not move around at all.



Pictures taken before I carpeted the enclosure.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:42 AM
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Ok so what was the conclusion of using (2) 10's instead of (1) 12 Matt? The box you designed will or will not work with 2 10'' cvr's? And if not, do you know of any 10's that will work with the box you made?
Correct. It seems Kicker sub woofers really need a lot of air space to produce a nice flat response. 2 10" CVR's need around 3 cubic feet to produce a flat response.

If I was to put 2 10" drivers in this same enclosure I'd go with the Dayton HO's and port the enclosure.

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It is not hard at all to figure out the enclosure dimensions, the subs should come with a spec sheet on the enclosure needed, which can be modified to whatever shape you want.
The problem with this is some manufactures do not believe in flat responses and will give you enclosure recommendations that produce a peaky response - similar to those who build SPL boxes.

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Say I buy a different sub, and all they give me is the cu. ft. ... how do I determine the actual dimensions of the box? I hope that made sense!
Volume of a cube (or paralleled side enclosure) = LxWxH

The volume of the enclosure I made in this thread had 2 triangles and a rectangle for calculating volume.

Play around with whatever size enclosure you want to make just as long as the volume works out to what you want.
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:37 PM
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

The good thing about making a sub enclosure yourself is its really cheap, I used one sheet of 2'x4' mdf that cost like $8 from Homedepot. I listened to it, made some modifications by putting egg crate foam on the inside walls of it, and then was happy with it so I threw carpet on it. You can always make an enclosure, not like the sound, then just make another one adjusting to what you need.

Matt, did you get the PartsExpress "Holiday Savings" catalog in the mail? There's alot of stuff in there i'd love to try out, I like how the Dayton ND's or whatever they are have a nice big surround. And the Peerless SDS 6 1/2 seems to be a nice woofer for under 20 bucks. I wish I knew about PartsExpress before I did my system.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:47 PM
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Yeah, it's cheap enough to try out different enclosures. Shops will usually charge minimum 100 bucks for a plain old sealed enclosure.

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Matt, did you get the PartsExpress "Holiday Savings" catalog in the mail? There's alot of stuff in there i'd love to try out, I like how the Dayton ND's or whatever they are have a nice big surround. And the Peerless SDS 6 1/2 seems to be a nice woofer for under 20 bucks. I wish I knew about PartsExpress before I did my system.
Yeah I got it the other day. The Daytons look pretty slick! I'm planning on trying out some new wide-band's - probably at least 3 more sets. These may go on that list.

The SDS's look nice as well. The 830657 looks pretty suitable for door applications. The other SDS 6.5 835004 looks like a great kick panel driver. I love my SLS's! I can't wait to try out sealed enclosures for them!
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

Tim, doesn't adding dampening inside the box cut down the airspace that JL recommended? Your saying that you made the box have less airspace then recommended and it sounded better to you?

I was looking at part's express last night and they have so much stuff! I am going to be ordering a few things from there this week. I saw they have tons of speaker connection panels for the sub boxes, what kind did you guys end up going with?

I saw some spring ones like you usually see on the back of house speakers with the spring clips you insert the wire into, and i saw some that looked like plugs?
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Tim, doesn't adding dampening inside the box cut down the airspace that JL recommended? Your saying that you made the box have less airspace then recommended and it sounded better to you?
It does, but using closed cell foam or polyester fiberfill helps dissipate the rear sound wave, therefor "tricking" the sub woofer into thinking it's in a larger enclosure than it's really in. So, no harm done.

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I was looking at part's express last night and they have so much stuff! I am going to be ordering a few things from there this week. I saw they have tons of speaker connection panels for the sub boxes, what kind did you guys end up going with?

I saw some spring ones like you usually see on the back of house speakers with the spring clips you insert the wire into, and i saw some that looked like plugs?
I prefer using a binding post and banana plug. I don't like the cheap look the plastic cups have to them. I have some pretty heavy duty ones, I like them a lot. Makes it nice and easy to remove quickly.
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Re: WK 10" Enclosure Dimensions

I see your connectors now, can you link me to those so I can check em out and the prices Matt? I assume they are pretty easy to terminate with the speaker wire itself?

All my old setups have had the cups and the spring clips that the bare wire goes into and it is always a PITA to remove and set back up! lol
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I see your connectors now, can you link me to those so I can check em out and the prices Matt? I assume they are pretty easy to terminate with the speaker wire itself?

All my old setups have had the cups and the spring clips that the bare wire goes into and it is always a PITA to remove and set back up! lol
I actually bought them from Lowe's 'cause I needed them that day, but get them online. I think they were like 25 bucks for the set at Lowe's.

Here is a link to some from PE

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=091-1245
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=091-1165

Yeah, forget messing with bare speaker wire. These use set screws to keep the wire in place... solid!
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:20 PM
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Awesome just what I was looking for.

I saw some black boxes that had the binding posts in them that accept banana plugs as well, I might look into those too.
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