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Old 05-21-2014, 11:39 PM
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Help with lift problems

I lifted my WJ. 39000 miles. There is a thread around here about it. I have been chasing a problem that is driving me crazY! I put a Fat Bob's 2.5 spring lift, shocks, JKS Track bar, new Tenneco magnum SS, New TRE's, New Moabs, New Coopers. Driveway aligned to 0.0 Toe as directed in the instructions for the Rusty's front springs. Had it toed in and it isn't good there either.

The truck is horrible to drive. I only drive it locally now. Highway is downright scary. It isn't too too bad on smooth pavement but if I hit a bump with the right front tire Oh Holy Mother! It feels like the tire is going to fall off! I have not got DW. It settles down fairly quickly but I about crap myself when it happens. Trying to figure out if this is just what you have to live with on a lifted WJ or if others don't experience this? I am going to take it down to a local shop to check the alignment and suspension. There is another place that is an offroad shop that I am going to stop by as well. I guess my question is could it be a balljoint or control arm bushing? Is this normal or does it sound like something is wrong? Tell me there are spring lifted WJ's out there that drive nice and behave on pothole roads. I must say that if a stock WJ is 18" at front hub center to fender measurement, then I got a full 3" of lift as I am at 21" now. I thought at 2.5 that from what I read, I would be safe from ill effects of lifting. I shouldn't have to live with bumpsteer like that with a mere 2.5 lift should I?
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Re: Help with lift problems

My buddy has that same lift on his Jeep. It does not ride as nice as the stock setup, it is much stiffer. But there's no fear of driving it on bumpy roads. I would say you have an issue somewhere.
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Re: Help with lift problems

Well, I went to the offroad shop. That was worthless. Guy acted like he didnt know anything about nothing. Didnt even care to look at the truck in the least. I guess I should have expected that as he didnt sell me the lift. Still may have made a good impression like he wanted to help and maybe earned a new customer. I would have spent money there if he found something wrong. Never go there again. Adios.
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Re: Help with lift problems

Talked to another guy. Said he had a Jeep with a lift and had a problem similar. Said he put new lower control arms from Rusty's on and it solved his problems. Said the stockers are too soft for the angle they are subjected to under a lift and have too much movement. I still suspect a bad ball joint. Going in the shop on Wednesday for a complete check and a run through the alignment rack.
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Re: Help with lift problems

Okay.....

Took it in to the shop. Mechanic went over the truck and said it is as tight as brand new. Not even a hint of play in anything. Put it on the rack and lined it up. It was out a little on the toe. Everything is adjusted to spec and tightened. I get in it and drive away. Hit first bump and nearly shat myself! It seems WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!

I go back to the shop and talk to mechanic. He says that he is paid flat rate. He just did his job and did it well. If I have a problem go talk to front office. Said everything is pristine and if they want to honor my complaint then they will have to pay him for the job twice. He is really pissy at this point. So I bid him a fine evening and leave.

I go home and stew over it some.....which can be good and it can be bad....just depends.

I take it for a ride and end up at the gas station. I get the idea to check the tire PSI. The mechanic blew the tires up to 42 PSI!!!!!!!!!

I lower them back down to 29 psi and take a spin.....WHAT A DIFFERENCE! You can't run a bigger tire on a WJ, especially on 17" Moabs and run them on 42 PSI. They are just too hard for the weight. At that pressure, you can stick a paint stick between the outter lugs and the pavement. At every bump I was bouncing off the road. No wonder.

Here is a little tidbit for all those people that take a lifted Jeep into the shop for alignment and claim they now have death wobble....CHECK YOUR TIRE PRESSURE!!!!

Evidently the mechanic will air the tires up to near max pressure when doing the alignment. I think it probably helps them get accurate readings and drift the truck back and forth and turn the steering and such.

I am pretty happy with it now. It doesn't wander at all and bumps seem not to be a problem. I am going to put a secondary steering stablizer on it for good measure and TRY to be done with it. It drives good now but the second SS couldn't hurt for future wearing in of components. I just want to drive the heck out of it and not think about the lift anymore except how great it looks. I may still add aftermarket fixed lower control arms down the line as upgrades. A guy I know says they make a big difference in stability. Just when I am bored and have a couple extra bucks....not right now. I mean face it...the original control arm bushings are already nearly 11 years old. Couldn't hurt. I'll update if anything changes.

Oh, and a word about customer service....

Called Fat Bob's and I don't think the guy even knew what a WJ was. Was of little help and just kinda blew me off.

Called Rusty's....what a great experience! I talked to a guy named Tony. He talked to me at great length. Went over all the possible problems and said that I most likely didn't need LCA's. Told me to get the alignment and then call him back if anything was out of whack with the caster. He said it should be within spec though. He talked to me for quite awhile and as long as I wanted to continue the conversation, it was just fine with him. He wasn't going to end the conversation until I was satisfied. Told me to call back and ask for him anytime regarding the problems. If I do the LCA's, Rusty's will be getting my business.
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