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Re: sway or wandering?

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The link to the upper a arm center bushing which is the problem piece in the design:
SuperPro SPF3669K Superpro SPF3669K Made by SuperPro

It is a special order piece with 6-8 wks delivery time. I think it comes from Australia.

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Rear upper A arm bushings

Gotta get this stuff in a sticky in the suspension section.

I am figuring I would have about $600 in the front arms, rear lower and bushings to rebuild the rear upper a arm. I have already replace the factory shocks with Bilsteins which have improved the handling too. Another $300 or so for UC springs and isolators. Probably $1k to get things fully rebuilt and better than factory.
Trav why in the hell would you put $1k into the stock suspension???? You could go RC long arm that is fully adjustable,has a "real" a arm setup,4"and poly all around for $1250 with a JF discount? C'mon bro you cant polish a turd.

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Old 08-11-2014, 12:57 PM
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Trav why in the hell would you put $1k into the stock suspension???? You could go RC long arm that is fully adjustable,has a "real" a arm setup,4"and poly all around for $1250 with a JF discount? C'mon bro you cant polish a turd.
Good point! I am looking into cheaper options at this point...
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Re: sway or wandering?

Whatever it is you decide....make sure there are a few bucks in the account for CF wrap so you can pimp out all the new components.
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Re: sway or wandering?

A question for the OP. I've read things about this BDS lift and some recommend loosening and re-torquing the control arms (front upper and lower, rear lower both ends) at the new ride height so that the bushings are under the correct torsion for the ride height. Did you do this after installing the lift? I am concerned about the need for upgraded control arms with the BDS springs, but I'm also toying with going with UC springs like Travis is talking about. I'm a little worried he's also talking about new control arms too.

Anyway, just interested in whether or not the OP did this loosen/re-torque procedure or not. Thanks!
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:41 PM
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A question for the OP. I've read things about this BDS lift and some recommend loosening and re-torquing the control arms (front upper and lower, rear lower both ends) at the new ride height so that the bushings are under the correct torsion for the ride height. Did you do this after installing the lift? I am concerned about the need for upgraded control arms with the BDS springs, but I'm also toying with going with UC springs like Travis is talking about. I'm a little worried he's also talking about new control arms too.

Anyway, just interested in whether or not the OP did this loosen/re-torque procedure or not. Thanks!
New control arms or bushings for both front and rear as I know there is plenty of wear in those on my WJ after 115k miles.
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Re: sway or wandering?

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New control arms or bushings for both front and rear as I know there is plenty of wear in those on my WJ after 115k miles.
Agreed. Did you use OEM or aftermarket custom ones like shown by the OP? Mine are also likely shot, and my WJ is 4 years older than yours with about 15k more miles on it. I'll have to get under there and take a look. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: sway or wandering?

Have not done it yet.
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Re: sway or wandering?

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A question for the OP. I've read things about this BDS lift and some recommend loosening and re-torquing the control arms (front upper and lower, rear lower both ends) at the new ride height so that the bushings are under the correct torsion for the ride height. Did you do this after installing the lift? I am concerned about the need for upgraded control arms with the BDS springs, but I'm also toying with going with UC springs like Travis is talking about. I'm a little worried he's also talking about new control arms too.

Anyway, just interested in whether or not the OP did this loosen/re-torque procedure or not. Thanks!

I did not do that at first. I did resort to trying that after awhile but I only loosened the front uppers and lowers. Afterward there was no difference. My front upper control arm bushings were really good looking but the lowers (only the oval bushings) were dry rotted and I could see where they were shifted toward the back. As I said before, the oval bushings are designed to function on a control arm that is level during road use. When you lift it, the oval bushing is on an angle and subject to movement with every bump in the road. The front lower control arms from Rusty's made the biggest improvement of anything I tried. The oval bushing just doesn't work out well in that instance IMO. I know there are people out there with lifts and OEM LCA's and claim they have no problems. Then again I have driven trucks that people thought drove good and they were horrible IMO to drive. I personally am glad I replaced them. The rears I put OEM replacements on just because I had to try it for the money and I don't think on the rear it is as critical. I never heard of bump steer and DW on the rear axle....LOL. If I had more money I would get the rears from Rusty's as well. Most certainly I would recommend at the very least to loosen and retorque when you install the lift. Then see how things go and how satisfied you are. Also, some experts say you don't need longer sway links. Well. I would get them. The angles of your sway bars are that way for a reason. When a sway bar points straight up on the ends, it isn't doing jack to control anything. I bought the spring and shock lift and ended up adding a track bar, sway links front and rear, all new lower control arms, second SS, new isolators, bar pin eliminators, all new TRE's etc to get it back to being a decent driver, and with only 39,000 miles at that. You need to know what you are getting into here. Good luck!
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Re: sway or wandering?

Been doing some more thinking about this and I am going to see what my dad can get the Mopar pieces for thru his service station. I figure new front and rear lower arms, UC springs, spring isolators, and other small parts it will be much improved. Time to call Dad
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Dad is working on this in the morning. He is checking on the front lowers and rear lowers. I figure that if the factory pieces got me this far they can't be half bad. The plus is that I get them at his cost.
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Re: sway or wandering?

If you are going with UC springs then that may be the best solution. Your angles will not be outside of factory specs anyway.
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Re: sway or wandering?

I'm still deciding too on whether or not to go UC. Other choice is 2" BDS. Just can't seem to settle on one or the other...UC seems like a lot less hassle but it's expensive compared to the lift you get. Best I've seen for new UC springs is about $75/spring. BDS springs are roughly $50/spring. The internal debate continues...
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