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Old 05-13-2010, 10:41 PM
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Re: 6.1L Swap - Need Some Help!

Why would you try adapting a Chrysler transmission to a Chevy engine, not to mention an electronic variety. You may want to *really* look into this and ask yourself at what point does it just not make sense anymore. You mention you're a student, so do you have money to burn on this? It's gonna take a great deal more than you think and so many obstacles to overcome. Provided you can somehow pull this off (assuming you don't have much experience), where do you think you'll be performance/reliability/craftsmanship wise compared to even a stock hemi? I like challenges myself, but (sorry to say) this is just silly.
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Re: 6.1L Swap - Need Some Help!

These cats seems to have solid pricing on MOPAR crate motors along with other various engine and trasmission components.

http://www.bouchillonperformance.com/MPCrateEngines.asp

And for 15K you can get a 605hp/572lbft of tq in a 7.2L fuel injected setup. I say go for it. But be ready for the bumps and bruises that go hand in hand with a project like this. You are not trying to do normal stuff first off and there is always something that comes up with ANY engine swap, even the same size motor right from the factory can have stupid little issues. I applaud you sir. Why buy it when YOU(and several buddies) can build it.

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Why would you try adapting a Chrysler transmission to a Chevy engine, not to mention an electronic variety. You may want to *really* look into this and ask yourself at what point does it just not make sense anymore. You mention you're a student, so do you have money to burn on this? It's gonna take a great deal more than you think and so many obstacles to overcome. Provided you can somehow pull this off (assuming you don't have much experience), where do you think you'll be performance/reliability/craftsmanship wise compared to even a stock hemi? I like challenges myself, but (sorry to say) this is just silly.
Definitely, I could see where you would say this, Id probably say a similar thing if I wasn't myself and I didnt know myself like I do haha. Personally, I couldnt complete a project like this. Good thing is, I had the idea (my car) and I have the funding (to a point). Im going to be doing the work with my father (currently has a '68 Stingray #s matching that he is restoring.) Has also built many hotrods in his day so this swap would be familiar grounds for him. Also have an ASE Master tech who live dow street form me I've know since birth, he races NHRA Top Alcohol and I've worked with him on his rig few times. Also has a legit shop with a lift etc etc so the work/craftsmanship isn't an issue, trust me

Thats only reason it may seem like Im being very light herated and playful with my thoguhts/ideas right now because I know its not going to be a huge issue once I figure out what works well together and is feasible option. That is why, I am asking you guys! I know you guys know these cars and have some good input. From there Im looking up the stuff you've said and relaying it to my the guys I mentioned and getting their input. Its a huge team effort, me being the idea/funding so keep it coming. Not so silly anymore is it? Maybe to you, but Ill post a thread when its gets going so you can follow
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Re: 6.1L Swap - Need Some Help!

Not to be the party pooper here but there are a few other things other than the engine and possible tranny swap to consider. You have now just added a MUCH heavier, albeit, powerful engine. I know from swapping small block Chevy motors into S-10s that you need to get heavier duty suspension components and larger, in your case MUCH larger breaks so as to bring you to a safe stop with all that power and weight. You will also want to grab yourself a nice big radiator, and a best friggin electric fans you can find. Have to keep this puppy cool and I can almost garauntee that your V6 radiator will not even come close to handling the cooling needs of a much larger engine. I would also not skimp on the tranny either. Play it safe and put in the RIGHT tranny that you KNOW will work with the HP numbers you will be looking at. Would really suck to get 2-3K miles on the new setup and have the tranny fly apart. Now your taking everything BACK OUT to fix the tranny. Again MUCH to be considered here.

Honestly there is a lot to consider here. My suggestion is to literally sit down and wirte a list of stuff you will HAVE to do to make this swap work, then a list of ALL parts you will need. See the task at hand piled and stacked up in front of you and see if its still tempting. The other thing I used to do when I was swaping motors into S-10s is to give a time estimate for each part of the project. Figure out how many days/weeks it will take from the time the car goes down until its back on the street again in full driveable condition.

Not only was I really involved in swapping V8s into S-10s and even a few rangers(351W motors or hopped up 5.0) I also worked for a shop building, restoring, and maintaining old muscle cars, hot rods, and race cars.

Not trying to burst your bubble. I stand by my earlier comment to go ahead and do it man. Would be one KILLER ride. If I were you I would even leave the V6 badges on...haha. Really surprise a few speeders out on the highways.

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my advice....buy a Jeep SRT front clip and steal the parts you need from the clip......
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Not to be the party pooper here but there are a few other things other than the engine and possible tranny swap to consider. You have now just added a MUCH heavier, albeit, powerful engine. I know from swapping small block Chevy motors into S-10s that you need to get heavier duty suspension components and larger, in your case MUCH larger breaks so as to bring you to a safe stop with all that power and weight. You will also want to grab yourself a nice big radiator, and a best friggin electric fans you can find. Have to keep this puppy cool and I can almost garauntee that your V6 radiator will not even come close to handling the cooling needs of a much larger engine. I would also not skimp on the tranny either. Play it safe and put in the RIGHT tranny that you KNOW will work with the HP numbers you will be looking at. Would really suck to get 2-3K miles on the new setup and have the tranny fly apart. Now your taking everything BACK OUT to fix the tranny. Again MUCH to be considered here.

Honestly there is a lot to consider here. My suggestion is to literally sit down and wirte a list of stuff you will HAVE to do to make this swap work, then a list of ALL parts you will need. See the task at hand piled and stacked up in front of you and see if its still tempting. The other thing I used to do when I was swaping motors into S-10s is to give a time estimate for each part of the project. Figure out how many days/weeks it will take from the time the car goes down until its back on the street again in full driveable condition.

Not only was I really involved in swapping V8s into S-10s and even a few rangers(351W motors or hopped up 5.0) I also worked for a shop building, restoring, and maintaining old muscle cars, hot rods, and race cars.

Not trying to burst your bubble. I stand by my earlier comment to go ahead and do it man. Would be one KILLER ride. If I were you I would even leave the V6 badges on...haha. Really surprise a few speeders out on the highways.

Best of luck.

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my advice....buy a Jeep SRT front clip and steal the parts you need from the clip......
@ Ironman, absolutely, I have a list in the works. Im in nooo rush, trust me. Its just an idea that Im seriously working on. Funds are in place, idea as well so like you said Im going to be doing a tonn of research, a ton of talking phone calls to shops, SRT guys. Im using EVERY and I mean every resource available because I dont mess around with this kind of stuff. If anything fails due to lack of research and planning then I deserve it, thats what I think.

Im currently looking into paring the best tranny for a built 350. The radiator/fan are the least of my worries but glad you mentioned, def on the list. I have the SRT suspension currently, not sure about the frame of the 3.7, im going to assume its same as at least the 4.7/5.7 maybe all WK's have same but should be able to handle power no prob, will be researched. The driveline will be research, Im calling Builderbill and some other guys who know them well to see what each part of the stock setup is capable of. Worst comes to worst, something stock blows up and I replace it anyway, the labor is free so its not going to kill me. Again, thanks for insight, all taken into consideration, one step at a time one day at a time.

@ Scott, Im going to look around for a scrapped SRT anyway, need the spindles/hub, may grab a ton of other stuff of one, let me know what you see
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Re: 6.1L Swap - Need Some Help!

could always find a wreked srt8 and buy it out. maybe a rearend damaged one then you would have everything you need right next to you. just strip it and put it all on yours. that way if you need something your not hunting for it its on the wrecked one. just a thought tho......
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No offense to any of you SRT guys cause I love the truck, its my favorite car on the road just because what the guys at Chyrsler came up with and everything its about. But the fact that I can just sell my car go an buy an SRT8 and be done isn't enough for me. Im going to have to say that wont satisfy my need customize and build. Not only that, but because thats also just going to lead to more money and at some point I have a limit lol shit I'm still in school. So I get the SRT, then what? Leave it stock? I wont be able to afford much more than all the boltons and I really cant deal with that lol. I have a mod bug for sure and I want it to be unique. Anyone can buy a car, but it takes a different type of person to build one. Even a nice car, a Benz or Audi or even a Veyorn aren't as impressive to me as a custom hot rod cruising down the street. Anyone can purchase a nice car, who can build one themselves? (or with some friends help haha) Ask the next guy you see driving around in his new M5 or his S6 or his C63AMG what kind of motor he's got under the hood or how much compression its running or even how many valves/cylinder, bet you he wont know what language you were speaking. Catch my drift lol, I'm not hating on anyone (only love for my Jeep guys haha), just explaining the reasoning behind my decisions right now. Thanks guys
I kinda feel the same way about building rather than buying, but I agree with everyone here. My .02 would be to keep your Jeep as a daily driver. Take your $15K and go here> http://www.factoryfive.com/ for that money you could purchase the Cobra Challenge car($14+K) complete kit. Add a Mustang powertrain and some other small parts and you have an awesome home-built ride. Yes these kits are popular, but I can assure you they are still few and far between. Then you have a nice reliable Jeep as well as an unique car for weekend races and cruise nights. They have other kits as well, but the Challenge is your best bang for your buck.
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I kinda feel the same way about building rather than buying, but I agree with everyone here. My .02 would be to keep your Jeep as a daily driver. Take your $15K and go here> http://www.factoryfive.com/ for that money you could purchase the Cobra Challenge car($14+K) complete kit. Add a Mustang powertrain and some other small parts and you have an awesome home-built ride. Yes these kits are popular, but I can assure you they are still few and far between. Then you have a nice reliable Jeep as well as an unique car for weekend races and cruise nights. They have other kits as well, but the Challenge is your best bang for your buck.
Some pretty nice cars there man. Guy near me has the Cobra or MK4 w/e its called haha. I don't know if thats the route I want to go but nice suggestion. Way I see it, Im a Jeep whore, lover beyond lovers, I literally would rather drive around in a loaded and fully custom 10 second Jeep over any other car out there for almost any price. Lambos, Ferraris they're all sick, (Id love to own them one day but something about riding around in a badass Jeep does it for me. Guess its in my DNA
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This has a 6.1 in it: http://forum.aev-conversions.com/showthread.php?t=368
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^^^ OMG thats sick, a lifted Wk with an SRT8 engine!!!
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