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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

And take a trip to the track!
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

I have no problem doing Datalogging. All you really need to do is get through one gear. You can do it at night in alot of places.
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

mike what kind tune do you have?
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

robert have you had your jeep tuned yet?
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Not yet Rene.
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

Fyi.........


Quote:
Originally Posted by mike@diablosport View Post
(copied from johans post)
i have been asked this alot and here is breakdown on what i like to see as far as pids go in order to properly adjust a calibration.
I split it up in the two different groups for 05-06 and then 07-up and they are grouped by the groups they are listed in predator/trinty and dataviewer.

2005-2006 pids

epdss
rpm
rpm
foundation inputs
mph
mph
charge temperature
act
f
coolant temperature
ect
f
desired fuel air
open loop fa
far
fuel flows
1/1 short term adap
%
2/1 short term adap
%
1/1 long term adap
%
2/1 long term adap
%
baro
kpa
pratio
pratio
injector control
total working pw cyl1
us
knock control
knk lt retard
deg
knk st retard
deg
spark
actual spk cyl1
deg
base spk
deg
map
sensed map
kpa
map to use
kpa
read map kpa
kpa
miscellaneous
raw tps1
v
raw tps2
v


2007-up pids


igntion
base spark
deg
actual spark cyl 1
deg
intake
intake air temp deg
f
manifold air pressure
kpa
barometric pressure
in hg
injector pulse width cylinder 1
us
miscellaneous
1/1 short term adap
%
2/1 short term adap
%
2/1 long term adap
%
1/1 long term adap
%
desired fa cyl1
far
open loop fa
far
read map kpa
kpa
p-ratio map/baro
pratio
misfire
knk lt retard
deg
knk st retard
deg
performance
vehicle speed
mph
engine speed
rpm
read engine rpm
rpm
throttle
throttle position sensor percent
%
accelerator pedal position
%
throttle blade position
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

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These instructions will NOT cover COM port setup or general PC skills L
NOTE: There is no need at any point to put your vehicle back to stock during custom tuning or logging.

Basic custom tune instructions:
1/ Getting your original backup or last tune written from your Predator/Trinity to your PC.
(NOTE: This will only copy the files from the tool, it will not transfer them, so you will always have your original backup intact)
a/Getting your original backup file(Your tool must of taken a backup before this step can be done)
Click “Get Tune File From Tool”, then click “Yes”. Make sure you pay attention to where this file is saved as well, keep the name or rename it, your choice, just keep the file extension intact.
b/Getting your Last tune written file(Your tool must of written a tune file to your vehicle for this step to work)
Click “Get Tune File From Tool”, then click “No”. Make sure you pay attention to where this file is saved as well, keep the name or rename it, your choice, just keep the file extension intact.
c/ Attach either or both files to an e-mail and send it to your tuner and please include a COMPLETE list of modifications.
2/Installing one (1) custom CMR tune into your Predator/Trinity.
a/Save your tune file from your tuner somewhere you will remember and do not change the file extension.
b/Make sure you have your original backup file saved on your PC as well and know its location.
c/Click on “Send Tune File To Tool”, then select the tune file from your tuner. You will then be asked for a base file, (this is your original backup file) so pick your original backup file.
d/ You should see a quick progress bar, then a “Download Complete” box, click “OK”, that’s it, now when you go to your vehicle you will have an additional Custom tune menu inside the Performance Tune menu.
3/Installing two to five custom CMR tunes into your Predator/Trinity.
a/Save your tune files from your tuner somewhere you will remember and do not change the file extension.
b/Make sure you have your original backup file saved on your PC as well and know its location.
c/Click on the “Advanced Tuning” tab in DSdownloader
d/Click on “Add Tunel”, then select the first tune file from your tuner. You will then be asked for a base file, (this is your original backup file) so pick your original backup file.
e/Click on “Add Tune” for each additional file you want to load, you will only be asked for the base file for the very first tune file you select.
f/Once desired tune files are added, click “Send to Tool”, you should see a quick progress bar, then a “Download Complete” box, click “OK”, that’s it, now when you go to your vehicle you will have an additional Custom tune menu inside the Performance Tune menu.

NOTE: A datalog of your vehicle on its current tune is NOT needed, only data log after you have received a custom tune.
Basic datalog instructions:
This will NOT cover the regular operation on how to select the PIDS and start and stop the data logs.
Using the Predator/Trinity or the Dataviewer software, select the following PID’s based on your vehicle manufacture year.
2005-2006 PIDS

EPDSS

RPM

rpm

Foundation Inputs

MPH

mph

Charge Temperature

ACT

F

Coolant Temperature

ECT

F

Desired Fuel Air

OPEN LOOP FA

FAR

Fuel Flows

1/1 Short Term ADAP

%

2/1 Short Term ADAP

%

1/1 Long Term ADAP

%

2/1 Long Term ADAP

%

BARO

kPa

PRATIO

PRatio

Injector Control

TOTAL WORKING PW CYL1

us

Knock Control

KNK LT RETARD

deg

KNK ST RETARD

deg

Spark

ACTUAL SPK CYL1

deg

BASE SPK

deg

MAP

SENSED MAP

kPa

MAP TO USE

kPa

READ MAP KPA

kPa

Miscellaneous

RAW TPS1

V

RAW TPS2

V


2007-up PIDS


Igntion
Base Spark
Deg
Actual Spark Cyl 1
Deg
Intake
Intake Air Temp Deg

F
Manifold Air Pressure
kPa
Barometric Pressure
in Hg
Injector Pulse Width Cylinder 1
us
Fuel
REQD FUEL CHARGE CYL1
mg/charge
Miscellaneous
1/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Short Term ADAP
%
2/1 Long Term ADAP
%
1/1 Long Term ADAP
%
DESIRED FA CYL1
FAR
OPEN LOOP FA
FAR
READ MAP KPA
kPa
P-Ratio MAP/BARO
PRatio
Misfire
KNK LT RETARD
deg
KNK ST RETARD
Deg
Performance
Vehicle Speed
mph
Engine Speed
rpm
Read Engine RPM
rpm
Throttle
Throttle Position Sensor Percent
%
Accelerator Pedal Position
%
Throttle Blade Position
%

Datalog driving instructions:
NOTE: Unless instructed otherwise, always allow your vehicle to fully warm up before doing any logging, min recommended ECT temp 170 deg F.
NOTE: After installing tune, allow roughly a day for the vehicle to fully go through its learn cycles before datalogging unless otherwise instructed.
1/ Idle(mainly for head/cam and vehicles with aftermarket injectors)
a/30-60 seconds in Park then 30-60 seconds in Drive, do it all in one log. Do not touch the throttle!
2/Cruise(mainly for head/cam and vehicles with aftermarket injectors)
a/Daily driving, try to drive normal and allow vehicle to shift through all the gears while recording.
b/Steady cruise, allow vehicle a steady cruise (cruise control can be used if the roads are fairly flat) at about 55-60mph for 30-60 seconds.
3/WOT
a/Try to perform the WOT logs when your IAT/ACT have come down to normal operating temps for the best results. The temps should be pretty close to ambient. 10-20 deg F over or so.
b/Allow vehicle to shift through as many gears as possible during the run, runs that go through the 4th gear will give the best and most useful data for your tuner as that will put the highest load on your vehicle.

Attach the log files to an e-mail and name the properly and send them to your tuner for review.
Make sure to tell your tuner about any condition that you feel noteworthy mentioning, idle surge, stumble etc etc…

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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

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mike what kind tune do you have?
Right now I have one of AJs dyno tunes on my truck. It really needs work though, because it knocks like crazy. We were supposed to have redone it a few months ago, but it never got done. Our schedules just didn't mesh, and now I need to do some engine work, so theres no point in doing it.

My record run was done with one of Johans Email tunes. Johans tune feels alot stronger then AJs, but with no dyno proof, I'm reluctant to tell people that normally.
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

As far as johan tunes what do they run about cost wise? Can someone pm about that... Thanks
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Re: All wheel drive dyno tune for srt8....

GO to Tunetime in NJ. Mat has a AWD Dyno and he will do a good job. I call Ralph & Johns for a TBSS and they didn't know how to do it they said he would call me back
and never did. Mat will do it for $300 Dyno tune AWD.
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